Stream-of-consciousness thoughts about X-MEN: FIRST CLASS, & superhero movie fans/critics in general

[thehefner]

For a movie that's getting so much praise as to be called "second only to The Dark Knight", X-Men: First Class was far more dumb, annoying, and frustrating than I was expecting. Oh, make no mistake, there's a lot that is excellent about it too. Pretty much everything with Magneto. Unsurprisingly. I mean, duh. But until I can do a full, spoiler-riddled review for discussion with others who've seen it, all I can say is that so much of it is stupider than I think most critics seem to be talking about.

I'm reminded of how some people called Thor and Iron Man "dumb action movies," even when they meant that as praise, whereas the stupid in X-M:FC far out-stupids those films. Hell, I'm further reminded of how people dismissed Iron Man's status as a great film opposite The Dark Knight, which was clearly the better superhero film for no other reason than because it was so dark and serious. I'm getting seriously sick of people, especially comic fans, equating "fun" with "stupid." I guess even geeks are guilty of the Oscar mentality that a comedy or action/drama with comedic elements can't be a Capital-G "Great" Movie.

Tangent: But it goes more deeply than that as far as geeks are concerned. Some time back, I read an essay that posited a theory that many geeks are deeply insecure about their passions, mainly after years of being told that the things they love are juvenile, only for kids, and that they need to grow out of it. To compensate, they want their superheroes and their cartoon adaptations to be dark, gritty, SERIOUS, so that they can feel like they're enjoying "adult" entertainment. Thus, we get a tone-deaf, blindly stupid Transformers film, which somehow removes all sense of enjoyment out of a huge-budget film about giant robots hitting each other.

Second tangent: Thor was also, coincidentally, called "The next Dark Knight by io9.com. Not only has this proved not to be the resounding case with movie or comic fans alike, but it's also an obnoxious reminder of how TDK remains flawless in the general esteem of fans and critics. When's the last time any of them have seen it on a TV screen, where the problems with that film are so much more evident? Seriously, if somebody really wants to earn my respect and interest in a superhero film they're espousing, call it "the next Batman: Mask of the Phantasm instead.

Comments

[pokeyburro.livejournal.com]

Given the above, how did you feel about the G.I.Joe movie? (This feels like something that should be knowable with a search, but I don't see it in your tags, and Google can't reach that far.)

[mellifluous-ink.livejournal.com]

Honestly I'm surprised that you and HG were enthused about seeing it (I thought it particularly odd when after a rant about a Planet of the Apes reboot, she mentioned that she was going to see the Xmen reboot). It didn't look interesting to me at all.

I did like Thor very much. I didn't think it was stupid, really. I think straightforward storylines are refreshing; also I know people like Thor (and I mean that in the best way possible, because I thought Thor was far from stupid or silly). My only issues are the female characters, I think I mentioned that though.

[night-train-fm.livejournal.com]

Air Force One and Con Air are dumb action movies (and I liked them both, in a guilty-pleasure way). Iron Man was not. Would you still recommend seeing First Class?

Did you watch Transformers Animated? Beast Wars? Both did an excellent job of being funny, enjoyable and far more mature than the films ostensibly aimed at an older audience. Beast Machines sacrificed a lot of BW's humour for darkness, but it was still trying to tell a story as well as sell toys. Prime is doing a pretty decent job, too.

For some inexplicable reason, my Dad appreciated Kick-Ass. I couldn't sit through the first twenty minutes.

[ievil-spock-47i.livejournal.com]

Off topic question: are you really in Zelienople? My wife's from Ambridge.

[harper-knight.livejournal.com]

Personally, even with Christian Bale, Heath Ledger, Gary Oldman and the Goddamn Batman in The Dark Knight's corner, I like Iron Man more. That's not to say I don't love The Dark Knight either, but rather that Iron Man was fucking beautiful AND funny, whereas the closest the much-adored batman movie got to real funny was Joker killing people in amusing ways. My only complaint with Iron Man is that even with two films so far, there is nowhere near enough of Stark flying around in a funky metal suit for my taste.

I also really liked Thor. Not in the class of my favorite movies, but certainly one I will re-watch.

I will go watch X-Men:First Class. Even though for some god-forsaken reason they have decided to have Havok, the, wait for it, YOUNGER brother of Scott, in the damn thing instead of Cyclops. As Cyclops is my favorite, this pains me greatly.

I'll watch Green Lantern and Captain America as well. I'll watch most comic book movies, although I never went near Daredevil or Elektra.

[yaseen101.livejournal.com]

I've had had to put up with people calling my interests and the various 'oh, you still reads comics?!' comments. I think that one of the lessons that nerds failed to learn from comics is that tryinbg to appease to the 'villains' is an ultimately futile attempt and you have to stand your ground no matter what.

I too think that dark n' edgy trend and realism is nothing more than a wish fulfillment in order to gain some sort of street cred and getting in with in-crowd.


I'll check out X-Men: First Class, for a project that I thought was going to bomb spectacularly it has turned out to be much better than I expected.