JUNO revisited
Jan. 7th, 2008 02:05 pmFuck it, I'll give my further JUNO thoughts their own entry.
I've reevaluated my opinion on JUNO, especially now that it's a mainstream smash hit. My main complaint is how it seems to try too hard to be "cool" in places. Certain scenes felt forced, particular the first meeting with Jennifer Garner and Jason Bateman. Juno's character in that scene did absolutely not ring true, spitting out unprovoked one-liners to the delight of the audience but having no real thematic reason to do so, from what I could tell. Was Juno purposely pushing her outrageous snark attitude to cover her own insecurity? Maybe so. And maybe for all the wrong reasons.
Maybe I'm just projecting my own experience with people saying that THE HEFNER MONOLOGUES are better when I'm not trying to be in "stand-up comic mode" but when I'm just being honest and myself, but that's sort of how I felt about JUNO. It seemed insecure about its own heart and quality, hiding behind indie "quirk" stuff and the snarky snappy "outsider-hip" dialogue.
("Mad tunage?" "Hells yeah"? That's what's passing for realistic teenage dialogue? Granted, real-life teenagers aren't exactly paragons of eloquence nor original thought, but still...)
Furthermore, it felt like the screenwriter was putting a bit too much of herself into the character; I'm sure there are plenty of teenage outsiders who closed-mindedly think Dario Argento and Iggy and the Stooges are the greatest artists of all time, but it never rang true for Juno's character. Not with me, anyway, and I'm clearly the minority.
Really, the overwhelming popularity of JUNO just reinforces the realization that I'm just particularly adverse to teenagers (not to mention indie culture, which often seems to have the exact same sensibilities), but even I agree it's a good--perhaps even great--film.
It's akin to real-life teenagers like Juno herself: once you get past the superficial cynicism, the everyone-else-is-an-idiot-but-me snobbery, and the oh-so-cool glib snark disguised as real wit... there's actually a real heart, depth, and humanity to be found.
And that's what ultimately made me like JUNO, even with all my complaints. In fact, I liked it a hell of a lot.
So yeah, while it very much is this year's NAPOLEON DYNAMITE and LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE--the indie movie mainstream audiences can go see to feel cultured for seeing an indie movie--it's a great sight better and smarter than either. That said, I sure as heck don't think Diablo Cody deserves an Oscar nod.
Oh, and Thing # 827 I loved about THERE WILL BE BLOOD: Daniel's delivery of the line, "That makes you my... compet-it-torrr."
He says "competitor" as if it's the name of a Decepticon. Magnificent.
I've also been very tempted to just constantly repeat the "milkshake" monologue to anyone who will listen. Just an average day for Heffie.
I've reevaluated my opinion on JUNO, especially now that it's a mainstream smash hit. My main complaint is how it seems to try too hard to be "cool" in places. Certain scenes felt forced, particular the first meeting with Jennifer Garner and Jason Bateman. Juno's character in that scene did absolutely not ring true, spitting out unprovoked one-liners to the delight of the audience but having no real thematic reason to do so, from what I could tell. Was Juno purposely pushing her outrageous snark attitude to cover her own insecurity? Maybe so. And maybe for all the wrong reasons.
Maybe I'm just projecting my own experience with people saying that THE HEFNER MONOLOGUES are better when I'm not trying to be in "stand-up comic mode" but when I'm just being honest and myself, but that's sort of how I felt about JUNO. It seemed insecure about its own heart and quality, hiding behind indie "quirk" stuff and the snarky snappy "outsider-hip" dialogue.
("Mad tunage?" "Hells yeah"? That's what's passing for realistic teenage dialogue? Granted, real-life teenagers aren't exactly paragons of eloquence nor original thought, but still...)
Furthermore, it felt like the screenwriter was putting a bit too much of herself into the character; I'm sure there are plenty of teenage outsiders who closed-mindedly think Dario Argento and Iggy and the Stooges are the greatest artists of all time, but it never rang true for Juno's character. Not with me, anyway, and I'm clearly the minority.
Really, the overwhelming popularity of JUNO just reinforces the realization that I'm just particularly adverse to teenagers (not to mention indie culture, which often seems to have the exact same sensibilities), but even I agree it's a good--perhaps even great--film.
It's akin to real-life teenagers like Juno herself: once you get past the superficial cynicism, the everyone-else-is-an-idiot-but-me snobbery, and the oh-so-cool glib snark disguised as real wit... there's actually a real heart, depth, and humanity to be found.
And that's what ultimately made me like JUNO, even with all my complaints. In fact, I liked it a hell of a lot.
So yeah, while it very much is this year's NAPOLEON DYNAMITE and LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE--the indie movie mainstream audiences can go see to feel cultured for seeing an indie movie--it's a great sight better and smarter than either. That said, I sure as heck don't think Diablo Cody deserves an Oscar nod.
Oh, and Thing # 827 I loved about THERE WILL BE BLOOD: Daniel's delivery of the line, "That makes you my... compet-it-torrr."
He says "competitor" as if it's the name of a Decepticon. Magnificent.
I've also been very tempted to just constantly repeat the "milkshake" monologue to anyone who will listen. Just an average day for Heffie.
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Date: 2008-01-07 09:00 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-07 09:11 pm (UTC)Am I making sense? There's a distinction there.
So no, I don't think we totally disagree. I haven't entirely made up my mind on it yet, just giving my impressions.
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Date: 2008-01-07 11:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-07 11:56 pm (UTC)Honestly, though, I'm tempted to wonder why your average student wouldn't find Juno attractive. But then I remember that I 1.) am attracted to geeky tomboys, and 2.) don't at all ascribe (is that the right word?) to the Playboy model of beauty.
Damn it, Ally Sheedy in BREAKFAST CLUB was way hotter before they gave her the makeover!
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Date: 2008-01-08 01:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-08 02:04 am (UTC)Oh dear, did I ever let that prejudice leak out while you still were a teenager? I didn't realize you were, honestly! *scrambles* Clearly, you are one of the unspoken exceptions, obviously, totally.
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Date: 2008-01-08 03:52 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-08 05:17 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-08 05:17 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-08 05:33 am (UTC)1.) You are not scripted
2.) I'm fairly certain you're more mature than the average teenager
3.) I could actually potentially make physical contact with you, which will never ever happen with Ellen Page, (unless I can get her to play Tammy in THE HEFNER MONOLOGUES movie.)
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Date: 2008-01-08 05:34 am (UTC)To a lesser extent, I was similarly pissed about Clea Duvall in THE FACULTY.