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Oh no. God, God no. Please, God, tell me we're not entering the "Batman and Robin" era of Marvel movies. And not with the Fantastic Four. Please. Please, no. Please let this just be a case of shitty advertising.

Because this... this makes baby Jesus cry.

And just in case, just in case you think it looks good, let me remind you a little something. The Fantastic Four are no superhero team. They're family. A real FF film should be character first, plot second, and special effects third. In that order. In fact, they already made a great FF movie. It was just called THE INCREDIBLES (imagine Pixar's masterpiece with more pathos and family in-fighting, that's the FF all the way.)

Doctor Doom is not a superpowered businessman with metal skin. He's a tyrannical monarch of a small european country who's so vain, he wears a whole suit of armor to cover up a tiny scar on his face. Corny? In a sense, yes. But in another sense, it's mythology, people. That's the thing that these people who overthink superheros just don't get. Mythology. Suspension of disbelief. At the end of the day, you're just not gonna get a plausible explanation as to how a man can fly. He gets his powers from the yellow sun, you accept it. Gamma radiation turns a guy into a monster. You don't need to know anything else. And above all else (and this is what the X-Men and especially Spider-Man movies got, as well as Incredibles) it's not about the costume, it's about the people behind the masks.

Gahhh. I want to punch something, but I'm afraid my fist will shatter because I have no heat in my dorm room.

Curse you, Richards!

Ouch

Date: 2005-01-19 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eldridgeprime.livejournal.com
Son... I feel your pain. Looks like 2 hours we are not going to be wasting to me.

Date: 2005-01-19 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tompurdue.livejournal.com
I don't think it's about suspension of disbelief. Suspension of disbelief happens for free, if you tell a good story. Nobody cares why the Enterprise can get from planet to planet despite the blah blah speed of light blah blah. The question is, can you tell a good story when you get there?

When people complain about, say, superheroes (or the transporter or time travel), they're not really complaining about that. They were thinking about it because it was more interesting than the story they were telling. Myths didn't get to be myths because somebody said, "Sure Zeus could take the shape of a swan and fuck Leda even though swans don't have penises; it's mythology". The stories engaged, and that's how they got to be myths.

When you start with a corny premise, it's up to the storytellers to make the story more interesting than the failure of the premise. It's not easy.

And when they've done it, why fuck with it? What could possibly make the movie-makers think that they can tell a more interesting story than the time-tested one that is The Fantastic Four? Because they're arrogant and stupid?

It's not so much the changes that bother me as the fact that they felt that they had to make them. Changes to, say, Lord of the Rings were done with a deep understanding of both the original story and the new medium in which they'd be telling it. What has Michael France got going for him?

Well, he's got the Hulk going for him, but I think a lot of people would say that was a bad script saved by a very talented director.

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