Go see SLITHER. Seriously. Don't be a wimp.

[thehefner]

"We're all busy people. We all love to enjoy our weekends. With that said, why in the piss aren't you out there seeing Slither? It's looking like it's going to make $4,000,000 this weekend, a number that might cover The Grudge's hairdressers. Put your money where your mouth is. A great, fun horror flick has arrived, the first since Shaun. You are the core audience. Own up!"

That was a quote from CHUD.com. Now, I understand many of you here don't fit the demographic necessarily, I get that. For my part, let me stress this- this is a damn good, outright hilarious and FUN movie. Go see it. Seriously. It's pure fun. Nathan Fillion needs your help!

To think that people are actually paying money to see BASIC INSTINCT 2.

EDIT: I'm gonna show my support by seeing it again, actually paying money for a movie I liked so much seeing for free.

Comments

[kali921.livejournal.com]

Should I go? Should I? Should I?

Also, GIP, showing my Hal icon.

[thehefner.livejournal.com]

Based on your love of zombie captain america, I say yes.

And awesome icon. I was thinking of making one with that image, but yours looks better than what I could have made. I long for the day when I can make icons with something other than MSPaint.

[kali921.livejournal.com]

Oh GOD, I love THAT icon! Jesus, that's gorgeous. May I gack and credit? Holy cow, that's gorgeous. I just read that issue. Thought: generally, chasing after Hal Jordan and screaming "you're under arrest" probably isn't a good idea. Neither is suddenly making him a manslut.

I'm starting to think this OYL idea is bullshit.

[thehefner.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that guy's art is gorgeous. By all means, gack away!

I think manslut is very much in keeping with Johns' idea of the character. Remember the Hector Hammond issue where he wanted just one of Hal's many memories of his female conquests? Maybe Hal and She-Hulk should get together and have a green-slut-off.

OYL had been kinda dubious in places, but I'm still interested to see where they're going. At least the new Aquaman was pretty cool.

[kali921.livejournal.com]

...yes, but I miss Arthur! Where is he?!

Thank GOD, someone else that likes Hal. I remember he had a manslut period in the late seventies - or was it early eighties? - when he spent time as a free spirit, traveling around the country. This was some time after the road trip saga with Ollie, IIRC. I've collected a lot of GL over the years, and I love me some Hal, yes I do. But I've always felt that depicting him as a manslut is a bit OOC for him, given that he mostly wasn't written as one. I mean, sure, he's a stud and has a lot of women coming on to him and of course he's sexually active, but he also has a sense of honor and decency, and I just don't think the casual Casanova thing really fits with that. But I'm a terrible idealist when it comes to Hal. He by far is my favorite GL. But I also know that his character is flawed - the occasional ego. Interestingly, he's very aware of it, and I think that makes him interesting.

I tried to read Hawkgirl OYL and gagged. Gah! The art! I read GA and liked it. My core DC titles are now, and have been for a while, GL, GA, the Hawk titles, and the JSA once it got good again. I really want to read more, but I just am left kind of unimpressed by most of it. I miss Morrison's Doom Patrol.

My main titles are MAX Punisher, Nextwave, and X-Factor right now.

[kali921.livejournal.com]

Gah! That was probably the most inarticualate comment ever. I'm still recovering from last night. That last sentence should read "my main MARVEL titles are...blah blah blah."

I should not be allowed near a keyboard unless I've consumed six cups of strongly caffeinated tea.

[thehefner.livejournal.com]

The allusion is that Arthur is the squidbeard, but personally, I'm hoping this new Arthur Curry is the real guy somehow.

I second that, thank god someone else that likes Hal! I do my damndest to spread tolerance in scans_daily, but someone people just really bloody hate him, I don't get why! They just really hate him, call him "Captain Perfection" and such. Yeah, somewhere along the line, I think everyone took his character as being a manslut without much actual proof. I am in complete agreement with you on Hal and his flaws. Personally, I love his depiction in Waid's JLA Year One and Brave and the Bold, as well as Cooke's New Frontier.

Heh, I personally love Howard Chaykin's art, but totally understand if it's not for everyone's tastes. He did an awesome Guy pin-up not too long ago for the GL secret files.

What I'm interested in for OYL is the return of my other very favorite character, Harvey Dent. I just hope to hell they don't make him crazy and evil again, that'd be so boring, unimaginitive, and disappointing.

Did you read the latest JSA Classified, the first issue of the Vandal Savage story? I really liked that.

I'm right with you on those big three, excellent and brilliant stuff all. I'm also becoming a real fan of Busiek's Avengers stuff, reading back to the stuff from his run. It appeals to me far more than Bendis' current work, weirdly enough. And Ellis' Iron Man was great too, once it finally came out.

[kali921.livejournal.com]

You read my MIND! I LOVE Busiek's Avengers, when he got warmed up and really writing will. But then, I'm an OLD school Avengers girl. The Kree Skrull War? Have it, read it, bought the t-shirt. Celestial Madonna saga? Sitting over my desk. Etc. Ad nauseum.

About Hal on scans_daily - well, I suspect sometimes that some of the antipathy against Hal is not only that he's Captain Perfect, but that he's not that slashable to the squeeing fangirls. I think one of the appeals of Hal for those that don't hate him is precisely that he is sometimes Captain Perfect. He's a Golden Age hero, and he bears a Green Lantern ring. Not everyone can do that. Of course he's above average in the clean living nobility department. This is, of course, before CrazyGONutsEbil!Hal.

Yay for Harvey!! *jumps up and down in solidarity*

I bought the JSA but haven't opened it yet, since I did three weeks worth of purchasing on Friday night. I came home with almost fifty comics and need to sit down and actually read them all.

I was JUST thinking about Ellis' Iron Man. GOD, that was brilliant. I have my occasional problems with Ellis' writing, but that was NOT one of them.

I am so tired of Bendis that I want to scream. He writes, what, a frillion titles now? I sat down over the weekend and read the last twenty five issues of DD again, because I'm on a Matt kick (partially because I'm playing against a stunningly good Matt in a Marvel RPG on LJ). His dialog is just so...so....well, it always misses the mark. It's the opposite of vivid. It's just dead, dry, repetitive and has little emotional impact. Good writing to me should yank me into the story and get me caring about the characters immediately. I thought he had a few good moments in DD, but for the most part I remembered how very much I dislike his writing at times.

Plus, Milla Donovan is about the lamest girlfriend Matt has ever had.

[thehefner.livejournal.com]

Yeah, bad me, I have yet to read Celestial Madonna, but I'm getting there! I'm just really getting charmed by old school Avengers. I reread Disassembled and went, "uhh, this... this is kinda bullshit."

My major problem with Bendis is that he writes every... single... damn... person exactly like Brian Michael Bendis. I'm sorry, but Doctor Strange, does not have lines like, "Um... it's wrong." Even in a line as simple as that, it's so OOC. And it's so great to hear someone else echo those sentiments on his dialog. And yeah, I totally agree about Milla.

A couple weeks back, I wrote a post about how I think a crossover between Two-Face and Typhoid Mary would result in nasty, painful, scary, crazy, just plain *wrong* sex and violence. That's one story I'd love to write, in the context of a new Batman/DD crossover.

It's funny, I actually didn't get into Hal until I read GL/Silver Surfer. I was so interested in this guy who I knew only perhiperally as a major hero, now as a misguided villain. I loved Parallax, but then I started reading back to the GL stuff and I went, hey, he was BETTER as GL! I just found him so, so much more interesting than Kyle, who *could* be written well (by Morrison and others) but always came off to me as a lame Peter Parker rip.

[kali921.livejournal.com]

Totally with you on Kyle. TOTALLY. He has a lot of potential, but...Kilowog's been written a million times more interesting.

Disassembled was a disaster. Unmitigated. The whole premise of Wanda, one of the strongest women in the MU, going batshit one day without any external cause is just ludicrous and sinus-clearingly out of character. Wanda's one of my favorite characters ever, and it's just ragingly illogical. Vision's death was pointless (he's one of my absolute favorite characters for a million reasons). I'm all for change and renewal in a comic verse when it makes sense. But this? Was bullshit. That's not the Avengers I know.

Two Face and Typhoid Mary? AWESOME. Where?! May I read it?

Stephen Strange would never say "umm, that's wrong." He's a distinguished, educated surgeon that is twenty years older than everyone else around, which means he never has and never will speak in SLANG, or like a twenty year old from Orange County. GAH!

Hey, do you ever RP?

[eliyes.livejournal.com]

No! But by all means, go and support it! :D

[thehefner.livejournal.com]

Well, based on next week's issue of Young Avengers, things for the new Vision and Scarlet Witch, wherever she is, may take a whole new interesting aspect.

I think Wanda can easily be redeemed and exhonerated, even better than Hal was, and I hope some day it'll happen. Yeah, the whole thing was utter bullshit. I cannot wait for the retcon on that bad boy.

Once I get the chance, I will so write the Batman/DD/Mary/Harvey fic, and it'll be awesome. And I'd lurve to do it as a comic, but DC may not let me get away with the really messed up stuff I'd have in mind,

What's RP?

[kali921.livejournal.com]

RP = role playing. Like writing fic, but MUCH more addictive, and collaborative! See, I co-run this large multiversal pan-fandom game, and you're so articulate, and you love comic fandoms, and...well, it's the type of place where you may find the Punisher talking to the Chesire Cat, Vimes talking to Nick Fury, and Vision and Machine Man talking about scoring human chicks, as they are right now. Or Hawkgirl getting drunk with Frank N. Furter from Rocky Horror Picture Show, which happened a few weeks ago. Or Pete Wisdom and Jenny Sparks meeting and getting on like a house doused with alcohol and set aflame and probably having bed breaking sex.

The premise is that it's a fictional advice column, where people post questions and answer as fictional characters in the comments section. Large and insane conversations are then held with a ton of characters jumping in. I told your buddy spacechild about it a while ago. :-) But it spawns actual roleplaying both in the community and on private character journals, and it is AWESOME. You can play any character in any fandom - film, TV, comics, theatre, literature, games, etc.

Literally anyone can join at any time. Want some fun links to look at, for demonstration purposes?

[thehefner.livejournal.com]

By all means, sure! Lord knows my free time comes and goes, and I am intrigued. I've never really RP before, but you make it sound to tempting (and thank you for the compliment on my eloquence), sure, send me some links! Certain characters I hold very close to my heart are Hal, Harvey, and Bill the Butcher, as well as my own character, Johnny Go.

[kali921.livejournal.com]

We'd LOVE a blazingly good Hal! We are a bit short on DC characters - we have a Mia, and Ollie, a Kendra, a Shayera, a couple of Nightwings, and some villains. People come and go as the fancy strikes them. Campy villains are also welcome. Right now I'm trying to find us a Rhino, because we have an awesome Misty Knight, and if you're reading the Daughters of the Dragon mini, you know how that goes.

We have a ton of Marvel people, a lot of Discworld, Full Metal Alchemist characters, and a ton of other fandoms. It's really, really addicting.

As far as Marvel goes, we have: Nick Fury, Bridge, all of X-Force (I'm not kidding, we have Cable, Domino, Jimmy Proudstar, Shatterstar, Rictor, Siryn, Cannonball, and Tabitha), Elektra, Black Widow, Daredevil, a ton of X-Men, a bunch Avengers (although we lack a Cap and Tony Stark, oddly - I'd KILL for a good Cap and Tony), a bunch of Cosmic Marvel characters like (we have a Silver Surfer that will knock your socks off), Gamora, Adam Warlock, Captain Marvel, the Punisher, Moondragon...lessee...we have a couple of GLA, a couple New Warrios, Iron Fist, Misty Knight, Deadpool, T'Challa, Stryfe, Sinister and Apocalypse. We have more, but that's all I can think of right now.

Then we have Harry Potter verse characters, Buffy verse, the Boondock Saints, etc. Just a whole lot, period. Let me dig you up some links. Play goes from very serious to comedic, and the Fourth Wall gets occasionally shattered, I warn you. You can play your character either very canon or AU. We have multiples, too, and that's fine - we have a 616 Nightcrawler, an Evolution Nightcrawler, and an Ultimate Nightcrawler that all occasionally talk to each other. It's pretty insane and fun, I warn you. The place is called sages_of_chaos. Right now we seem to have a minifestation of sparkly anime characters over the last couple of days, but that usually goes away quickly.

Oscar Wilde has just posted. Have I mentioned we allow people to portray real people? We have an Evil Dr. Phil, too.

Here's a taste - two of them are a bit Marvelcentric, but you get the idea:

http://community.livejournal.com/sages_of_chaos/4842157.html - This is our Elektra posting. Note: the images are NOT WORK SAFE.


http://community.livejournal.com/sages_of_chaos/4847019.html - Here's our Pete Wisdom, stirring up trouble and getting on with Jenny Sparks.

http://community.livejournal.com/sages_of_chaos/4901542.html - I give you Vandemar and Croup from Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere.

Enjoy, come join us, tell your friends!

[thehefner.livejournal.com]

Aha! I actually HAVE seen your community before! Someone pointed it my way when I was trying to defend Scott Summers from people who would badmouth him (which is to say, everybody). My friend and I have a club, the People's Ethical Treatment of Scott.

Wow, you guys need a Hal? Let me tell you, I love Hal, but I'm not at all sure if I have a handle on him. He's a tough character to pin down! How can one categorize all the contradictions?

Do you already have a Doom? I'd imagine so. I've written two rather awesome (if I do say so myself) in-character Doom posts, haven't done one in awhile, but man, playing Doom was so damn much fun. I actually curse Richards on a daily basis. There's a story with that.

Ooh, you need a Tony too? Man oh man... I only regret that I am not more well versed in Iron Man as I'd want to be (damn you, lack of TPBs!) to do him justice, but that's one I do think I could handle.

I had a friend who was Guy Gardner inside and out. Too bad we're not friends anymore, he'd be so perfect for this.

I'd be so totally tempted to pull out Bill the Butcher from GANGS OF NEW YORK, though. That's one character I definitely have in mind half the time. I go as him to Ren Fest, just to screw with 'em.

When I'm better rested, I'll totally give those a read. Particularly Vendemar and Croup.

[kali921.livejournal.com]

DO BILL THE BUTCHER, OMG. We'd LOVE THAT.

Look, taking on a character for RPing is an exploratory process. We're all tentative at first - I write Siryn, and just sat down and read a few issues to refresh myself, and then BOOM! Jumped in. You get the hang of it quickly, and you're so articulate and well versed, you won't have a problem. I also write Kendra, and if you do Hal, I promise she'll Kendra Snark at him. :-D

We NEED a Doom.Come! Be DOOM! DO A DOOM! Not literally, however. And we have the awesomest Scott Summers to ever awesome, so indeed, our comm was the right place to be pointed.

DOOOO EEEET.

I don't know I saw both

[the-mithril-man.livejournal.com]

Slither was good, I had no problem spending money on it, I wouldn't see it again. At least not without bringing a whole group of folk with me, to subject them to it anew, to see there faces on the fun part I know are coming. Course most of my friends have a hard time watching 'John Carpenter's The Thing' so I don't know how willing they'll be.

I was roped into seeing Basic Instinct 2 with my Mom, as my Father can't be dragged to see anything with Sharon Stone in it. All I can say about BI2 is, everyone goes on and on about how good she looks for her age, neatly sidestepping the fact that the movie itself has no real plot. And after years of CSI, she's lucky she did it in London, cause that dog don't hunt in Vegas.

The cool way to spell it is SLiTHER

[seangrimm.livejournal.com]

I saw it friday and my friend and I laughed our fucking asses off through 85% of the movie and loved it hard without a rubber. Even though it was a 2:20PM showing there were only 3 other people in the theatre with us and I didn't hear them laugh at all which makes me feel sad for them becuase they suck.

Officially SLiTHER is at 3.7million, basic instinct 2 is at 3.2million and Ice Age 2 is something like 50 or 70million I can't remember.

The word I've heard is that theatres are having maybe ten people per a show, bad news.

[gnort.livejournal.com]

I was going to try to comfort you with the fact that Basic Instinct 2 bombed at the theater, but seeing that slither didn't fare much better might not help. Though if the movie's as good as you say it is it will most likely become a cult classic and be big in dvd sales. I too really liked Waid's Hal in Year One, I however didn't like Hal in the Guy Gardner Comic and in that era of JL when he was all pompous and full of himself. His temples even turned white mimicking that vile bastard Richards.

[thehefner.livejournal.com]

Ok, I just posted my first Bill comment. Can I, if I choose to, make multiple replies as different characters?

It's tricky trying to post as Bill without getting extremely racist. Even in character, I don't think that'd go over well with others.

[kali921.livejournal.com]

YAY! Where?? Make a character journal for him - that's what most people do. They make a journal for each of their characters. :-) Otherwise, it gets confusing. And yes, you can reply to a post as many times as you want, and as as many different characters you want to log in as. :-) I sometimes have two, three, or four characters reply to a post or thread if there are people I want to talk to there.

We just had half the Nextwave crew show up. :-D *glee*

BILL THE BUTCHER. You can BE Bill - my god, we have villains that are far worse, that say things that are far, far worse than Bill would.

One thing that might make it easier, though - usually if a character says something that you are afraid might rub people the wrong way out of character - i.e., OOC, meaning, the player behind the character - usually the player will put an OOC comment in double parentheses at the bottom of the comment clarifying that the invective is all in character, meaning, written as the character, and doesn't reflect the player's sentiment.

Example - say I'm posting as, say, Jack the Ripper, and I have a vile comment about women:

"The sluts deserve to have their throats slashed and viscera emptied on the floor."

Below that I might type:

((OOC: All IC. The player obviously does not hold this sentiment.))

Or something similar.

Anything typed in double parentheses or brackets is OOC, meaning the player is saying something to other players, not as the character.

You'll do fine. People would EXPECT Bill to be insanely racist and outrageous. Anyone that can't deal with it and takes it personally doesn't get Sages, and probably shouldn't be there. Don't worry, we've had worse!!

[thehefner.livejournal.com]

It was in the Kurt Cobain post on beauty. I have to say, as an actor, I tend to kinda really get into the character, but at the same time I still maintain much of my personal insecurity, and the result is... kinda weird. Like, now I feel uncomfortable that Kurt Cobain is looking at me like I'm crazy, all because I/Bill am talking about Bill's personal philosophies. Like, I'm almost taking this personally! So weird.

I came *this* close to sending a Bill comment to Mad Mod's tea and bikkies post, which basically was a couple sentences of anti-limey rantings. But I held off. I didn't have the guts.

I'm not sure if I have the time or energy to devote to new journals. Can't I just go by icon? I have a surplus of those.

You've had villians who'd say things far worse than Bill? Who, Hitler?!

I'll remember the OOC tag if I need it. And if I keep playing him, boy, this insecure little man who tends to like the approval of as many people as possible will definitely find it handy.

[kali921.livejournal.com]

You can use different icons for your own real life journal, but most people will assume you're posting as yourself, rather than as a character. I'll make you a journal, if you want. C'mon, it takes five minutes, and it's SOOOO addicting! :-)

[thehefner.livejournal.com]

Look at you, you little pimp you! You'd do that? Well, as I'm about to crash into bed, I'd mightily appreciate that. Ok, let's do it! (what madness am I getting myself into?)

[kali921.livejournal.com]

Let me think of a good journal name for Bill, and I'll make one tomorrow. Do you want your Oopsie Daisy icon to be the default one? I'll see what else I can do iconwise. I'll be on next tomorrow afternoon PST, after I'm done with work. :-) We shall make mischief then! Muah ha ha ha.

[thehefner.livejournal.com]

Well, there are a number of variations between William "Bill the Butcher" Cutting's name and alias alone. Actually, let's go for the TSK! TSK! icon as default... it's more his general character, and hey, I can always change it later.

You're so into this. Thankee!