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Oscar noms are in, and as with every year, I am largely indifferent. Bizarrely, BORAT is nominated for best adapted screenplay. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm a huge lover and defender of BORAT as a work of true artistic comedy genius that should stand the test of time, damn the backlash. I've been too chicken to write a whole post defending the film from folks who dismiss it as anything from "cruel" to "dumb frat boy potty humor" (and I WILL write it at some point, or else Bloo will wallop me, and no one wants that... well, maybe she does).

But a largely improvised movie getting a best screenplay nod strikes me as the dumbest frickin' "Best Screenplay" nomination since LOST IN TRANSLATION. That movie was sold by the direction, the acting, and (more than many folks probably want to admit) the pop soundtrack. NOT the barebones screenplay!

This brings me to another rant. I just read on a friend's LJ people responding to a post parodying LOST IN TRANSLATION as an action movie, and, not for the first time, I read people saying how, "Urg, people who didn't like LOST IN TRANSLATION are ignorant/have short attention spans/prefer super-fast MTV style shoot-em-ups, and didn't understand the nuanced subtleties and wank wank wank." Me, I liked the movie fine, but I didn't love it. I thought it was a feather-weight light and kinda forgettable movie, Scarlett Johanssen's butt notwithstanding.

It brought to mind that pretty much every other review of THE PRESTIGE I've read says something along the lines of, "People who didn't like this movie didn't get it. The true magic of this movie slipped past them because they 'weren't watching closely.' Oooh, you see how clever we were just then?"

Nothing so gets my goat when there's something that I don't care for or don't get and all the fans get superior about it. Now, I absolutely am gonna rewatch THE PRESTIGE, and with other people who've never seen it, because I still want to know what the hell everybody saw in this film (especially when, say, a masterpiece like THE FOUNTAIN went largely unwatched... I called Hugh Jackman being snubbed, that man deserves a Best Actor nod desperately for his performance), but these movies have gotten seriously browncoated for me.

Ah well. At least the other greatest film I've seen all year, PAN'S LABYRINTH, is up for Best Foreign Language Film. I mean, it deserves Best Picture, but that'll do.

Seriously, though. Jackman was robbed.




In other movie news, Clive Owen has been cast as Raymond Chandler's private eye Phillip Marlowe, and I couldn't be happier. He's filling the badass shoes of Bogart and Bobby Mitchum (and, uh, Elliot Gould), as well as the best Marlowe ever, who-would-have-thought-the-musical-star-could-have-done-it Dick Powell in one of my all-time favorite noirs, MURDER, MY SWEET (a more tough title than the original book FAREWELL, MY LOVELY).

I gotta say, now I really am glad Owen didn't get the role of James Bond (no matter how much Daniel Craig's sunken chest disturbs me... you could drink punch out of that thing!) because we get to see him in more opportunities for badassery like this.

Date: 2007-01-23 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gore-whore-5.livejournal.com
I completely agree with you about LOST IN TRANSLATION. I thought THE PRESTIGE was okay. Not super-incredible. I predicted one of the twists and E predicted the other. Oooh, big shocker.

But speaking of Clive Owen, he and the rest of CHILDREN OF MEN got totally robbed with the Oscar nods. Where the fuck is best actor, actress, adapted screenplay, director, picture? I fucking loved that movie on so many levels and all it got was cinematography? (which was absolutely excellent) Gah! Sorry. Ending rant now. Clive Owen rules. Am so psyched for him as Marlowe. He'd be perfect.

Date: 2007-01-23 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Yeah, I definitely need to see CHILDREN OF MEN and will do so soonish. I was shocked to see that one snubbed as well! THE FOUNTAIN I get, as can I understand PAN'S LABYRINTH... but maybe it just comes down to the fact that the Academy just isn't a fan of sci-fi (or what they might consider sci-fi, if you get my drift).

Aye, he's gonna absolutely nail that role. Still, now I've GOT to rewatch MURDER, MY SWEET.

Way off topic.

Date: 2007-01-23 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suburbfabulous.livejournal.com
Did you know that there's a ShawFest in Canada?
shawfest.com, I think.

Re: Way off topic.

Date: 2007-01-23 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suburbfabulous.livejournal.com
Yesterday, when I was still a postal employee, a travel agent handed it to me.
I immediately thought "Hef would LOVE something like this."

Re: Way off topic.

Date: 2007-01-23 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Damn, I've never heard of this! This is fascinating. I wonder if I could possibly swing it? I'm lucky enough to live in DC, which is a pretty big theatre town, but man, sometimes I really wish I could more easily hit up things like this and the Edinburgh festival.

Re: Way off topic.

Date: 2007-01-23 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suburbfabulous.livejournal.com
I wish you could, too.
I keep wanting to hit up the local O'Neill tributes.
Homeboy ROCKED the mic.

Date: 2007-01-23 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmousie.livejournal.com
In other movie news, Clive Owen has been cast as Raymond Chandler's private eye Phillip Marlowe, and I couldn't be happier. He's filling the badass shoes of Bogart and Bobby Mitchum (and, uh, Elliot Gould), as well as the best Marlowe ever, who-would-have-thought-the-musical-star-could-have-done-it Dick Powell in one of my all-time favorite noirs, MURDER, MY SWEET (a more tough title than the original book FAREWELL, MY LOVELY).

I gotta say, now I really am glad Owen didn't get the role of James Bond (no matter how much Daniel Craig's sunken chest disturbs me... you could drink punch out of that thing!) because we get to see him in more opportunities for badassery like this.


Yep yep! Yay Clive!

Date: 2007-01-23 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yancentric.livejournal.com
Weird casting, maybe.. But I loved The Long Goodbye.

Date: 2007-01-23 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
I actually haven't seen it, but know it's a controversial film. I definitely plan to, although I really don't care for Altman most times. That said, I actually do like Elliot Gould, mainly thanks to LITTLE MURDERS.

Date: 2007-01-23 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tompurdue.livejournal.com
In my own defense, as it were, I wouldn't say that I "dismiss" BORAT. I just think it's not for me, though I will see it on DVD just to see if I'm right. I've been pleasantly surprised in the past.

I can't imagine what they're thinking about its best screenplay. Best editing, maybe.

Re: why chicken?

Date: 2007-01-23 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
One of the things that really got me going on this was Peter David's blog. David, you might know, is pretty damn good comic and TV writer.

http://peterdavid.malibulist.com/archives/005038.html

Best editing, yeah, that it could definitely deserve.

Re: why chicken?

Date: 2007-01-23 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tompurdue.livejournal.com
Not having seen the film, David's reactions sound a lot like what I'd expect mine to be. Not exactly: I didn't much care for Andy Kaufman's routine either. That whole "laughing at how uncomfortable people are" routine just doesn't do it for me. All I feel when I'm uncomfortable is uncomfortable.

He didn't call it "dumb frat boy potty humor", but he did call it "cruel", and as far as I can tell (in ignorance) that's accurate. Sure, some of the people earned their own cruelty, but I'm not sure what is gained by that.

Re: why chicken?

Date: 2007-01-23 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
No, someone else had called it "dumb frat boy potty humor."

Part of what's driving me to want to write my reaction is the fact that I hate, hate, HATE cruel humor based on humiliation. I cannot stand to watch PUNK'D, and even though I love JACKASS, some of the practical joke stuff gets to me. I don't find it funny. I actually want to turn away.

And yet, for reasons I have yet to articulate, BORAT and Kaufman strike me as something new altogether. Something totally seperate. On one hand, I put myself in these people's shoes and wonder how I'd feel in their place. On the other hand, a large part of me is so tempted to just say, "Geez, grow a fucking sense of humor."

Re: why chicken?

Date: 2007-01-23 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tompurdue.livejournal.com
Along vaguely similar lines, The Straight Dope this week has kind of an interesting look at Andy Kaufman:

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mandykaufman.htm

which I just happened to be reading when I got your reply.

At this point, Borat is so vigorously browncoated that I have no idea how to produce an honest opinion. Which I guess is the key to all of this: you're not wrong about Lost in Translation, and David isn't wrong about Borat, except to the degree that anybody is telling anybody else that their likes and dislikes are invalid.

It is a useful exercise, however, to examine what it is one likes or dislikes about each project, and the harder it is to come up with that explanation, the more valuable it is. It doesn't mean I'm going to actually watch an Andy Kaufman video; explaining why I dislike it is too easy. But that there are those people to whom it appealed is undeniable, and figuring out why that should be is interesting.

Re: why chicken?

Date: 2007-01-23 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
... But again, I have yet to find a good way to explain that.

(also, please forgive typos, I'm writing this at work and rushing around)

Date: 2007-01-24 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2sick2pray.livejournal.com
what i don't understand is what the hell makes it an "adapted screenplay." adapted from what, the sketches from da ali g show? from life?

why chicken?

Date: 2007-01-23 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirthical.livejournal.com
I've been too chicken to write a whole post defending the film from folks who dismiss it as anything from "cruel" to "dumb frat boy potty humor" (and I WILL write it at some point, or else Bloo will wallop me, and no one wants that... well, maybe she does).

Wait, where does the chicken part come in? What are you afraid of, exactly? (apart from threats of walloping, which should really be an inducement to write the post, not put it off)

*is confused*

Re: why chicken?

Date: 2007-01-23 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
I keep lacking the eloquence to express my feelings so as to refute the complaints made like in Peter David's blog:

http://peterdavid.malibulist.com/archives/005038.html

Ok, it's chickenness and laziness, both of which add up to procrastination. But if/when I do write it up, I want it to be good. By which I mean, I want to actually make those people look at it differently, if I can.

Date: 2007-01-23 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kwsapphire.livejournal.com
Yeah, I don't give much weight to awards ceremonies either. ALL of them are bought and sold, awards given later in "to make up" for the one that was deserved on an earlier film/song/performance etc. BUT, when people say "anyone who didn't like this movie didn't get it/is too stupid/wasn't paying attention" .. I want to SMACK those people. REALLY REALLY HARD. Because you know what? Maybe I just didn't frigging LIKE the FILM. It's no different than people telling others what is and isn't "art" - and what they should and shouldn't like. You know what? FUCK that. I'm the first one to admit that I don't think I really "got" The Fountain, and it took a lot of thinking for days afterwards to come up with some kind of meaning. It was a visually STUNNING film, and the acting was GREAT, I just had a hard time gleaning anything from it. Then again, I loved the cartoon Aeon Flux, which more often than not made NO sense what so ever. It's eyecandy/headcandy, and I can appreciate that. And obviously I'm not only capable of enjoying ONE type of film, since my "likes" are all over the place. Sorry, I'm ranting. But next time someone insults you (or anyone else) for having a different opinion, feel free to hand them a lit stick of TNT.

Date: 2007-01-23 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
I will always dislike the Oscars and all such stupid awards. Unless something I like wins. Or until I win one. Then I will cry and squee and totally sell out.

And see, I don't have a problem with you not caring for THE FOUNTAIN, just because it's a very wide-open film in terms of what somebody can or cannot get from it. Ugh, eloquence is failing me completely today, but you hopefully know what I mean. In a way, it's kinda like CLOSER... it's a deeply personal film for some, but not everyone. Whoo lordy, no.

I shall light the fuse for both of us, rest assured.

Date: 2007-01-23 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fishymcb.livejournal.com
Man, I love the Marlowe mysteries! I will totally have to see that.

Date: 2007-01-23 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Have you seen MURDER, MY SWEET (the adaptation of FAREWELL, MY LOVELY) by any chance? If not, mayhap that should go on our movie night list! It's Chandler's favorite.

Date: 2007-01-23 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabine42.livejournal.com
especially when, say, a masterpiece like THE FOUNTAIN went largely unwatched... I called Hugh Jackman being snubbed, that man deserves a Best Actor nod desperately for his performance

THANK YOU!! I tried not to rant and rave on this point *much* in my oscar commentary largely b/c I'm known as a big fan of his and therefore must be biased. But I thank you for your comment!

(almost makes up for the negative emphasis you apply to the term "browncoat" as an adjective that you continue to use)

Date: 2007-01-23 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Hey, blame Arthur, he came up with the brilliant term "browncoated"! I just follow his example!

Also, good call on "Flushed Away," it too was so snubbed.

Date: 2007-01-23 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kosher-jenny.livejournal.com
The Borat nod strikes me as the academy's annual "Look! We're relevant!" attempt, seeing as how there weren't any critically acclaimed movies with rap songs on their soundtrack this year.

Now, I loved the Prestige to bits, but I understand that you didn't like it and why. Nothing gets my goat more than when fans play the "I didn't like it, therefore it sucked" game and the "you didn't like it, therefore there is something wrong with you/you just didn't understand it/you need to look at it more closely" game. Bah, sometimes people just don't like something. After all, nothing is worse than a fangelical. For what it's worth, I also found Lost in Translation very underwhelming (out of curiosity, did you see it for the first time on the big screen or at home?).

I wish Pan's Labyrinth had gotten a best picture or best director nom though, since it was probably one of the best movies this year. I guess the concept of a fairy tale that is also a grim war time movie is too much for the codgers at the academy. Bah, again. Hopefully it will win in the categories it is nominated in (even if it means beating The Prestiege in the few categories it was in, since I'm also rooting for that to take best Cinematography). I heard that this is the most nominations that a foreign film has gathered before, but I'm not sure if that's correct or not.

I read some people expressing surprise that Casino Royale didn't get any nominations. It was one of the most critically successful films of the year, so I suppose that should have earned it some nods in the more minor categories. I guess I wasn't expecting an action movie to get many oscar nods.

Date: 2007-01-24 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Yeah, giving it only one real Oscar nod in the one category where it won't win. Unless, of course, it does, which would be total Bizarro World.

I saw LOST IN TRANSLATION on a big-ish screen at one of my college's weekly movie screenings. Much lesser quality of sound and screen than a regular theatre. So is that Option 3?

Well, even if I'm discontent about the reception PAN'S LABYRINTH has gotten by the Academy, the director is totally frickin' excited and ecstatic about these nominations. So there you go, I guess. I suppose it is pretty impressive, again considering the Academy's distaste for anything not downright down-to-earth "drama."

Date: 2007-01-24 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adaptor.livejournal.com
Yay! I'm not the only one who thought Lost in Translation's best screenplay nom fell from the clear blue wtf?.

As for the rest of the news, I hopped on the sites long enough to find out Army of Shadows didn't get a foreign film nomination (probably because its original release in France was so long ago) and quickly lost interest. I haven't got any dogs in the fight this year. Oh, well.

Speaking of awesome movies, I'm a war movie kick now and just finished watching The Great Escape (yes, for the first time)(yes, I clearly need to be punished). A Bridge Too Far was great, too. "Have you ever been liberated?" "I've been divorced twice. Does that count?"

Date: 2007-01-24 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
LIT won too, didn't it?

That said, though, have you or will you see PAN'S LABYRINTH? I mean, it's Spanish (set in Spain, but technically Mexican, I suppose), so, uh... that's closer to France!

I need to see more war movies. My experience doesn't extend much further than two underappreciated gems, HART'S WAR (to hell with it being unrealistic, the characters are some of the rich I've ever seen in a movie) and FORCE TEN FROM NAVARONE.

Date: 2007-01-25 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adaptor.livejournal.com
Hart's War is good? Excellent.

I think I gave up on war films early. I think I saw Hunt For Red October and thought, 'well, no use watching anymore - it's obviously all downhill after something this great.' Which is true, but thankfully it's a very tall hill.

Haven't seen Pan's Labyrinth yet. Thank's for getting continental for me, but I actually don't like French films that much. But see Army of Shadows if comes to Washington D.C. sometimes soon. Oh.... My..... Gosh. So excellent! (And on so many Best Of lists for last year!) My only problem is that, as a Resistance buff, I kept laughing at all the wrong places. But I made up for it after when I overheard someone asking aloud some questions about the Resistance. I only meant to helpfully answer *one* question but soon the whole lobby had turned to ask me stuff. Good times, good times...

Pwning Nazis. My anti-drug.

Date: 2007-01-25 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
That trailer for ARMY OF SHADOWS looks excellent! And it's directed by the guy who did LE SAMOURAI?! Oh, I am there!

I'm honestly not a fan of French movies myself (they're so damn... French! I just mean their mentiality toward filmmaking turns me off), although I absolutely *adore* films like DIABOLIQUE. And I will totally, totally keep and eye out for ARMY OF SHADOWS.

Yeah, HART'S WAR... this was pushed on me by a friend who's a real buff, who gets really annoying when things get unrealistic. And while much of the life in the POW camp in the movie is suspect, we agreed that the movie is fantastic watching purely for the characters. It has one of the best Nazis I've ever seen in a movie. And not in any way you might expect.

Date: 2007-01-25 06:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adaptor.livejournal.com
"I'm honestly not a fan of French movies myself (they're so damn... French! I just mean their mentiality toward filmmaking turns me off)..."

I am so very with you on that! And I tried *hard!*

It's the theory. They went and invented (and fell in love with) so many dang cinema theories that as a lover of plain-old story telling I feel like I can't get a break. That's why I love it when they pull off a film like Amalie. Yeah, there's a lot of great experimenting with various techniques and such, but it's also just a great story.

Mind you, none of this changes the fact I love Renior and Truffaut. I will be a happy, happy person when they release Day for Night on dvd. (And the new Rules of the Game print? I'm so psyched! I bought a video of the old one when I was a kid and could never read the subtitles. D'oh!)

Date: 2007-01-25 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Man, I feel less shamefully ignorant now to hear that! Because I totally agree with you-- when it comes to movies, novels, comics, whatever... I'm there for story first and foremost. I can't say there shouldn't be such films where it's about the "art" over the story, certainly not, but they're just not for me.

Still, I should see more. JULES ET JIM was interesting, if only because of how fast-paced it was, but I don't know how much I ultimately took away from it? EYES WITHOUT A FACE is a classic, but it's totally lost on me. And again, I adore DIABOLIQUE.

I'll happily take recommendations for Renoir and Truffaut, even if they're the standards that I already have on my Nexflix queue (already 490 DVDs long!)

Date: 2007-01-25 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spacechild.livejournal.com
it was my lj where people were getting antsy in the pantsy about the spoof of Lost in Translation.. and i love those guys but was honestly really annoyed.

its a SPOOF, for pete's sake.

just enjoy it and dont read into it too much.

Date: 2007-01-25 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Yeah, several times there I was seriously biting my tongue to keep from responding to them.

Date: 2007-01-25 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spacechild.livejournal.com
sorry we arent as sophisticated as you guys. i still LIKE to have a good laugh.

btw, we had a blast last night. thank you very much, and thank your mom, as well. Holly really enjoyed meeting her, and you know i love your mom.

Date: 2007-01-25 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
It was a total blast! Definitely do swing by more often! Mom'd love the company, Edd'll still be in town for a bit, and it'd sure save me gas and wear 'n tear! Of course, you are gonna drink me outta house and home, you know this?

I'm serious, we should get together and watch the original Wicker Man, the lot of us, and Holly can help Mom with tiles and stuff.

Date: 2007-01-25 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spacechild.livejournal.com
Holly wouldnt be able to watch the Wicker Man, its just not her thing, so we'd have to do that on a seperate occasion.

and yes, i am going to drink you out of house/home. you are just getting really good at this, and i dont get to enjoy mixed drinks often because they are retarded expensive in restaurants.

i can bring some beer or something to help out, though.

we both really enjoyed Edd. how long is he here for?

Date: 2007-01-25 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Hm, poop. Very well, we shall plot and plan something.

And yeah, keep it up and I'll start asking for tips. Just slip 'em in my butt crack. Because they'll still be expensive for me, pally!

Beer good too, but I try to go easy because it's too many calories.

Edd'll be here for... two or three more weeks at least, and he'll be back in a month or two. He'll be back and forth over the year to work on this massive project.

Date: 2007-01-25 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spacechild.livejournal.com
yeah, i've been trying to watch my beer intake because of the calories, as well.

but tossing you a few bucks (from afar, but i could try aiming for your ass) wouldnt be out of the question. beats paying bar prices.

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