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Behold a new favorite list from Cracked.com:

The 5 Most Badass Presidents of All Time.

Now, there are some things that I wish the article included. Like how Andrew Jackson signed the "Indian Removal Bill," (would it be off-base to consider this Jackson's "final solution" to the whole "Indian" problem?), the evil fuck.

And in the comments, people have been making cases for Ike Eisenhower deserving an honorable mention. Is is true that he forced the villagers of towns surrounding Nazi concentration camps to march through the liberated camps and witness the horror so no one could say "it never happened"?

Regardless, this list is awesome, and I still kinda hurt from laughing.



Sometime later this weekend, I'll post my thoughts on what may, just possibly, (let's see how I feel when I see it a second time and sober) be one of my new favorite films of all time: ALL THAT JAZZ.

I really, really wasn't expecting a film like this. Good lord.

Date: 2008-02-17 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suburbfabulous.livejournal.com
Ann.
Reinking.
You will never watch ANNIE the same way again.
All I'm sayin'.

Date: 2008-02-17 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
But I don't want to have to see ANNIE a first time, much less twice!

Date: 2008-02-17 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suburbfabulous.livejournal.com
Well, FINE. Be that way!

Date: 2008-02-17 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
I would do anything for love, but I won't do that.

Date: 2008-02-17 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suburbfabulous.livejournal.com
A young Tim Curry...DANCING. (No, he does not Do The Rock, early solo album to the contrary. Sorry.)
Carol Burnett as a drunk.
Bernadette Peters as a ho.
Albert Finney, balder than Hackman.
FDR.
The "neva had it, neva will" guy from the old 7Up commercials (his name is Geoffrey Holder, actually.)
A helicopter-plane like Batman used to rock.
It's such pure crack, it's...it's ULTRA MEGA CRACK.

Date: 2008-02-17 06:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirthical.livejournal.com
I'm fairly sure it was Eisenhower, but it could also have been Patton. I might be confusing movies with reality again.

Regardless, some American big-name personage DID in fact march villagers through the concentration camps after the liberations. Damnit, I remember learning about this, but I don't remember the details. Mauthausen-Gusen was one of the camps that was intimately connected with the town of Mauthausen (in Austria), but I'm not sure if any Americans forced the villagers to march through.

Ugh. It's kind of amazing how Germany and Austria have stepped up in terms of memorials and things. How many other countries do you know of that have memorials to their most ignoble and notorious chapters in history? It's still a federal offense in both countries to deny the Holocaust. I shouldn't wonder that other countries might learn something, ours included. Humility, for one thing.

Date: 2008-02-17 10:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suburbfabulous.livejournal.com
Ah, Patton. He was awesome in FIRESTARTER, you know.
At least Clinton apologized for the Tuskegee Institute experiments.
Now, if only Jeb Bush would apologize for the 2000 election, I think we'd be headed for a much better place.

Date: 2008-02-17 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
According to the same comment about Eisenhower, they said something along the lines of how he put Patton on a leash, whatever that means.

That really is amazing. Most other countries adopt a policy of "Yyyyeah, that was awkward, let's not talk about it ever again. We're cool now, right?"

Date: 2008-02-17 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirthical.livejournal.com
All my knowledge of Patton is from the movie, but I'm led to understand that it's a pretty good basis for opinions. And yeah, Patton needed leashing, at least when he wasn't actively carrying on battle.

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