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Jul. 15th, 2008 11:39 pm
thehefner: (Army of Darkness: Stretched Face)
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What?

... wait, what?

buhuhWhaaaa?

Date: 2008-07-16 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-mithril-man.livejournal.com
..... I'm scared.... hold me.

Date: 2008-07-16 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kosher-jenny.livejournal.com
...I'm too scared to watch. Can you elaborate?

Date: 2008-07-16 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Frank Miller. SPIRIT trailer. It... I... yeahbutwhaaa?

Yes, it even made me quote Joss. I'm that far gone.

Date: 2008-07-16 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adaptor.livejournal.com
Looks good! Why so serious crazy?

Wow...

Date: 2008-07-16 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] american-arcane.livejournal.com
That's, uh, different from the last trailer I saw for the film.

I mean, it looks good and all... but a wee bit different from just about all the bit of Spirit that I've read. (Which, admittedly, isn't a whole lot, but still...)

Wonder what Will E. would think...

Date: 2008-07-16 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
... there's... you need to understand, there is so, so, so much WTFuckery going on here, I don't know where to explain.

Well, for one thing, I don't suppose you've read Eisner's THE SPIRIT? Most haven't. The Spirit is one of the greatest comic strips ever made, created by Will Eisner, who is the grandmaster/grandfather/godfather of comics, the man who invented the graphic novel, and who was innovating the art form in ways back in the 30's that people STILL aren't doing today.

And Frank Miller, for all his genuine love and respect for Eisner... is Frank Miller.

I wish there were better, more classic examples of the work, but here's but a single one that I could find:

http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/224173.html

I wish I could show you some of the true classics. The P'Gell stories, the original Sand Sarief and Lorelei stories, so many others, just to show you what Eisner did and who he was.

I thought I'd already come to terms with the idea that this wouldn't be Eisner's SPIRIT, but Miller's SPIRIT, and enjoy it on those terms. But when the Octopus--a mysterious villain who Eisner only ever depicted by his trademark purple gloves, and nothing more, like the original Dr. Claw--is portrayed by Sam Jackson as both a fur-wearing samurai AND a Nazi... good lord, girl, I don't know how better to explain before my head explodes!

Re: Wow...

Date: 2008-07-16 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
A wee bit is an understatement. Hopefully somebody will post scans of more classic Eisner so I can show people what the real SPIRIT looks like.

Date: 2008-07-16 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swimpenguin.livejournal.com
I've only flipped through Spirit comics (any suggestion for a good first collection to read) and yeah, even I know that trailer looks wacky.

Date: 2008-07-16 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Collection options are kind of limited, sadly. The Complete Spirit Archives are fucking expensive, and I'm not sure what's in the so-called "Best of THE SPIRIT" trade paperback, although that might be your best (read: only) bet.

Honestly, I wish the SPIRIT CASEBOOK vols. 1 and 2 were still in print from Kitchen Sink Press. Those were utter awesomeness, and if you can find 'em, good luck! They're black and white, and I honestly think it works much better.

Date: 2008-07-16 09:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eliyes.livejournal.com
;_; I had a bad feeling as soon as I saw that they took a female character who was originally a physicist and surgeon and made her into a secretary or something, but that... That...

GOD,
I hate Frank Miller. >_

Re: Wow...

Date: 2008-07-16 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] american-arcane.livejournal.com
Most of what I've read is from a couple of different books on creating comics and sequential art.

And, yeah, "wee" is an understatement.

This may be yet another case of "Wow, that was pretty awesome... but so not what it was supposed to be."

Date: 2008-07-16 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tompurdue.livejournal.com
OK, bad for women, but good for the physicists. Nobody writes good physicists.

(OK, I concede that for the most part they're not portrayed as whores.)

;-)

Date: 2008-07-16 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heykidzcomix.livejournal.com
TIIIIIIIIIITS

Date: 2008-07-16 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] disc-sophist.livejournal.com
That's 100% different from the teaser! That looked like it would at least keep the basic idea. Perhaps it's just a standard "shove every bit of pretty into a single trailer" thing, and it's a bad representation of the film itself, but yeah.

Sam Jackson... um.

Date: 2008-07-16 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
No, no, it's BOOooOOooOOooOOooOOBS.

Date: 2008-07-16 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heykidzcomix.livejournal.com
Who could have guessed that Frank Miller's vision for The Spirit was a harem comedy?

WHO?

Date: 2008-07-16 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nymphgalatea.livejournal.com
I've decided not to watch the trailer, on the grounds that it might hurt my mental health.

Oh, Frank. You are a crazy old coot.

Date: 2008-07-16 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frumple.livejournal.com
Now you are alll go... team... boo.. boobies!!!

Date: 2008-07-16 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eliyes.livejournal.com
Well, the physics and scientific procedures are usually very "..WHAT?" but at least some fictional physicists are relatively entertaining. of course, I say this as a Rodney McKay fan. X3

Date: 2008-07-16 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] droidboy010101.livejournal.com
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, wait, did Miller or Eisner just lift the Black Fuhrer from Kurt Vonnegut's Mother Night (which was the only good film adaptation of a KV novel) ????

Maybe something's wrong with me because I noticed the abundance of femme forward torpedoes, but it's Samuel Jackson in the Nazi outfit that stood out?

Date: 2008-07-18 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gallen-storm.livejournal.com
I can't wait for Frank Miller does Astro Boy j/k

I only say this because Eisner and Tezuka both share a similar whimsical humor and form of stroy telling.

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