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Remember back when I tried to start up a meme for who would be on your asskicking super-team, if you could assemble a group of anybody, fictional or real? Your ultimate dream team, ready to have quests in anywhere from Middle-Earth to the Uncharted Territories.

I still stand behind mine, if only so I could have Bill the Butcher duel (and then have a one-night-stand) with Kitty Pryde, show Oracle helping Bub the Zombie and Johnny Go disarm a bomb, and depict Doc Holiday eating nachos with Werner Herzog. They'd be good times, I tell you.

Well, it appears comic artist Sean Murphy has similar dreams, and has drawn up his own super-team of dream characters. Oh holy hell, it is a geeksplosion of dorktastic nerdery, in the very best way possible.






I'm behind every single choice here except for Wolverine and Gambit, just because the former is so overused and the latter is Gambit. But the inclusion of Henry Rollins and the Gray Motherfuckin' Ghost easily makes up for it.

Now if I could just him to draw up my super-team of Hal Jordan, Bill the Butcher, Kitty Pryde, Doc Holiday, Oracle, Harvey Dent, Maxwell Lord, Bub the Zombie, and Johnny Go, we'll be golden. But it's just as well, because the universe would clearly implode from the awesome.

Date: 2009-03-19 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badmagic.livejournal.com
This is why we can't have nice things.

(BTW: Zot!, the animatronic Abraham Lincoln from the Hall of Presidents animated by Lincoln's ghost, Hellboy, the pirate queen Cheng I Sao, Elric, Doc Holliday (OK, I'll give you that one,) Spider Jerusalem, Rex the Wonder Dog, Zhong Kui the Ghost Queller, and Godzilla.)

Date: 2009-03-19 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
The robot Lincoln with Lincoln's ghost is a little bit of utter brilliance.

But with Rex the Wonder Dog, I fear the rest of the team becomes irrelevant.

Date: 2009-03-19 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pondering-duck.livejournal.com
OK, I see Rocketeer, Captain P., Dude from Willow, Zorro, Gambit, Wolverine, and Indiana J. Who are the rest? (Is that what's his name from GI Joe?)

Date: 2009-03-19 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
The Grey Ghost (from BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES, the guy Adam West played), Henry Rollins (professional badass), Snake Eyes (dude, you don't know Snake Eyes? It's Snake Eyes!), and Albert Einstein with... is that a sword from Final Fantasy?

Date: 2009-03-20 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pondering-duck.livejournal.com
Ironically I know who all those people are, I just didn't recognize them for some reason.

Date: 2009-03-20 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swimpenguin.livejournal.com
I totally dig Einstein with the meat cleaver sword from Final Fantasy 7.

My Super Superteam:

Date: 2009-03-19 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spirit-o-fire.livejournal.com
What are the restrictions? 'm going with ten, like the pick.

1. Gandalf the White (from the book). Brings to the team Magic, Lore and great leadership.

2. Fingolfin (an early king of the elves in ME, so bad-assed that, even though he died, he permanently hurt Melkor). Brings massive melee prowess, toughness, tactical genius and more magic and magic resistance.

3. Power Girl (as opposed to superman. We should include powerful chicks). Brings to the team air support, near invulnerability, massive toughness, massive strength and incredibly distracting hotness.

4. Indiana Jones: Brings to the team more lore knowledge, ability to think outside of the box or act with no plan, tactical ability, sneakiness, snark, endurance, cool and a bullwhip.

5. The Huntress (as opposed to Green Arrow) Brings stealth, long range attach, Archery coolness, sneakiness, hotness.

6. The Gray Mouser: brings super sneakiness, the ability to sniff out a trick, the ability to pull the best tricks himself, some magic, great skill in a melee, and the ability to stab a bad guy in the back when no one else knows.

7. The Shadow: brings a blend of magic and psychic ability, a pair of gorgeous pistols, knowledge about the roots of evil in humanity, sneakiness, stealth, brawling capability and the ability to cloud men's minds.

8. Psylocke: Brings powerful psychic ability, impressive assassin skills, phenomenal melee fighting ablilty and the ability to sniff out a rat.

9. Tony Stark/Iron Man: Brings technological genius, massive resources, some tactical and strategic genius, and a bad-assed Iron Man suit that adds toughness, power, air support and a heavy punch.

10. Obi-Wan Kenobi (from Revenge of the Sith): Brings a connection to the nature of the universe (the Force) which gives a blend of Magic, Psychic, possibly unbeatable melee and piloting ability, the ability to handle high technology and a lightsaber.

Re: My Super Superteam:

Date: 2009-03-20 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Power Girl especially is an EXCELLENT choice, and methinks I need to throw her on my team as well. We don't have a serious powerhouse character (unless you count Hal, and I don't; he doesn't have a power ring in my team, he's just the leader).

Date: 2009-03-19 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gore-whore-5.livejournal.com
FUCK YES HENRY ROLLINS!

Date: 2009-03-20 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
In some ways, he's the clincher here to awesometown.

Date: 2009-03-19 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tragical-mirth.livejournal.com
Does Wolverine have his hand up Gambit's skirt? I believe he does.

As far as a super team, I'd be content with your Bill the Butcher hacking the shit out of Gambit with a cleaver à la movie!Rorschach.

But in this team, Albert Einstein with the zombie-hacking cricket bat takes the prize.

ETA: It occurs to me that I did this a while back, but I can't find the post. I seem to remember Albus Dumbledore, Nicola Tesla, Emma Goldman, Marie Laveau, and Harry Houdini having starring roles...
Edited Date: 2009-03-19 09:19 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-03-20 05:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
I actually wrote up a whole fic scene of the Bill/Kitty fight/makeout session. I even tried to do a bit of fanart of them making out, with her hand phasing through his chest to caress his hair from behind. God I'm such a dork and I NEED to see that fight. Bill with his cleavers versus Kitty with a katana. It's epic, dude.

Date: 2009-03-21 06:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tragical-mirth.livejournal.com
That's...kinda hot. Um... But Kitty would totally win that fight, you know it! Like a cat playing with her food: she'll turn intangible and laugh at his ass every time he swings. Ah, if only I could draw.

Here I thought Einstein had a cricket bat, but the consensus is that it's some SquareSoft sword. I still like the idea of him chasing zombies with a cricket bat more, though.

Date: 2009-03-21 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Shit, I forgot to mention that my super-team also had Doctors Strange and Octavius! God, this team is huge and populated by too many huge egos. I love it so.

So, um, back when I first got this idea, I actually wrote up some drabbles of this super-team (I'm revisiting them now, and dear lord I wish I could draw to bring some of these to life), and I did write the entire Bill/Bitty fight. Everyone takes bets, and pretty much everyone votes for Kitty, just because they're all anxious to see Bill get his (and as Max Lord put it, "Always go for the kid with the powers. It’s the same principle of never betting on the white guy."). But for this fight, she agrees, "no powers." She wants to trounce him good and proper, as samurai (or is it ninja training she has?) versus street fighter.

God, I'm so glad I can't draw. I'd spend hours working on this, to the delight of about three people.

Date: 2009-03-19 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kosher-jenny.livejournal.com
I could give it a go for you, since I'm on break and all, but I am nowhere near one percent the artist that Sean Murphy is. Also, are we taking the Val Kilmer version of Holiday?

Let's see, just going off the top of my head: Hellboy, The Shade, Deadshot, Miyamoto Musashi, Gesicht, Sailor Jupiter and Sailor Saturn (the latter might be too much though), Gene Hunt, Rogue (with Carol Danvers' powers), and Michael Westen.
Edited Date: 2009-03-19 11:47 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-03-20 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
We absolutely are talking Kilmer! Although I think a dash of Dennis Quaid couldn't hurt, as he was great too.

Actually, I can't recall the last time I've seen your art. Have you any recent samples? Because if you're offering, mayhaps I could request something else that I've had on my mind recently...

Date: 2009-03-20 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demonfafa.livejournal.com
Picard wasn't wearing that when he used the Tommy Gun.

Not that I'd know such things.

*cough*

[/nerd]

But seriously, Henry Fucking Rollins next to the Grey Ghost with Madmartigan and Einstein wielding a massive anime sword? The only problem I have is Logan riding bitch.

Date: 2009-03-20 05:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
NNNYYYYYYYEEEEERRRDDD!!!

Honestly, that line-up is just too magnificent to be comprehended. How our heads haven't exploded by now is beyond me.

Date: 2009-03-20 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kosher-jenny.livejournal.com
There is a very good reason you have seen any of my drawings lately! I'm been in a bit of a slump for the past, er, couple of years or so? One of the perils of being mostly self-taught is that without someone lighting a fire under you (like say, a professor) it can be too easy to stick within your comfort zones and not progress, even wind up backsliding. So I've been doing that for quite a while, not putting in the effort needed to improve, and I've wound up with sketchbooks filled with a lot of half-assed sketches and doodles. Plus I have been addicted to the brain crack for quite a while now.

But! I don't know if has to do with the design classes that I've been taking this semester, or that I've been trying to grapple with a brush and ink recently, or it's the comics I've been readin', or that I've been reading some interesting drawing books, or that my sleeping schedule has been so profoundly fucked up, but for some reason I have been feeling more motivated to push against the walls of those comfort zones as of late.

...which is all my embarrassingly overshare-ingly way of saying that I'm afraid I don't have any thing substantial as far as samples are concerned right now, but if you want to bounce a couple of ideas my way and are willing to lower your expectations I can certainly give it my best shot.

Edit: that was meant as reply to your comment above, but I don't know why it wound up here. Huh.
Edited Date: 2009-03-20 01:28 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-03-20 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Well, I've been looking to get some concept art put together for the Harvey Dent novel, so if you're up for it, I'd like to see what you could do and try to find something that I'd like to see you bring to life. Applicable style for material and all that.

Date: 2009-03-22 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kosher-jenny.livejournal.com
I see I see *nods*. Well, what if you send me some character descriptions or design ideas or something, and I could have a go at sketching them? I figure that might give you a fairly good idea of my style/skill level.

Date: 2009-03-22 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Rock! Okay, lemme give it some thought and I'll get back to you on that. I'm hoping to get some concept art back from other people to get a better sense of what it is I'm looking for in the first place! For one, I haven't quite decided if I like Harvey with the wavy hair he had in YEAR ONE (see icon) or if I prefer the Kennedy-style hair Dean Trippe gave him:

http://thehefner.livejournal.com/567775.html

I'm leaning towards the latter, as it'd really make this Harvey my own, and it'd also emphasize the RFK connections I've felt with the character.

Date: 2009-03-20 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charisma18.livejournal.com
I think my favorite is Einstein wielding Cloud's Buster Sword.

Date: 2009-03-20 05:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
But who'd wield Sepheroph's equally-impractical huge-ass sword? Heisenberg?

Another superhero group ...

Date: 2009-03-20 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] treyhawk.livejournal.com
Off the top of my head...

The Samaritan (Astro City)
Harry Dresden (The Dresden Files)
Ruby the Galactic Gumshoe
Billy (Boy Genius and original Blue Mighty Morphin Power Ranger, who could build a device that would allow him to summon and command UltraMegaZord by himself)
Impulse (Young Justice)
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Lum (Urusei Yatsura)
The Dirty Pair
Darkwing Duck
Bolt (the super-powered version fron the first 10 minutes of the film)
Charybdus Starchild (evil space pirate who tries to destroy the universe but keeps saving it instead, wears a sentient space battlesuit that's trying to kill him, and has a flying pirate ship IN SPACE!)

Date: 2009-03-22 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greedyslayer.livejournal.com
I'm really curious about Harvey Dent in that team dynamic.

(BTW, 9 members the team limit?)

Date: 2009-03-22 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
In truth, he's the hardest one to work around. He's only a team player half the time, and even THAT'S depending. Essentially, he'd be like Hyde from LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN, only without the brute strength to be a powerhouse. I think Kitty in particular would be most sympathetic to Harvey, but wouldn't hesitate putting Two-Face down if he tried anything.

Ha, actually, I just remembered I also had Doctors Strange and Octopus on there as well, so it went to eleven! Well, ten, if you count Oracle as essentially just the M of their team. I just love too many characters!

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