Meandering Bat-Rants
Mar. 25th, 2010 02:54 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
thehefnerEvery so often, I feel like I need to do a list weighing the things I love and hate about modern superhero comics, to figure out if it's really worth the emotional and/or financial investment anymore. I'm still very much in the pro camp, but damn, it's like every week, something else comes out to anger the blood.
Tony Daniel has left me cold anyway, but the revelation of Selina's new "partner"...? Good lord, and I thought his Bat!Two-Face costume was the nadir of his costume design capabilities. Why the hell hasn't anyone at scans_daily posted this so that we may sufficiently groan and rant about Daniel's foolishness?
Speaking of the horrendous Bat!Two-Face costume (which looks like Harvey cosplaying as Harley... badly), I bought all the issues of the Winick/Bagley run of BATMAN, since it would be cheaper than shelling out for the ripoff hardcover collection. And y'know what? I don't think it's that bad. Actually, I kind of prefer it to Morrison's.
I mean, okay, I'm biased against Morrison, I admit that. But what I particularly dislike about Morrison is how he's all about action and ideas, whereas Winick's BATMAN actually dealt with more internal character struggles. I noticed that some critics felt this was more "same old, same old" in comparison to Morrison's BOLD NEW IDEAS OMG (or whatever his strengths are; outside of Damian, he just leaves me cold beyond anything other than a momentary "well, that was odd and fun"), but frankly, Winick's story felt more like actual "Batman" to me, y'know?
But then, Morrison continues to be a sticking point with me. It's kind of amazing how he never fails to invoke such bitter frustration whenever I see his BATMAN work on the shelves! Today, on scans_daily, I encountered an argument between Morrison and Loeb fans as to which was the superior story: BATMAN R.I.P. or HUSH. In such a battle, no one wins. Or maybe I just especially lose.
So if we're really at a point where the two camps of Bat-thought are between the likes of Loeb and Morrison, is there really a place for fans like me? Well, even if I feel like there isn't one now, I'm sure there will be eventually. That's the great thing about superhero comics: it all comes back 'round eventually. Just as long as one's patient enough to ride the cycles out.
Until then, thank god for outlets like scans_daily. Now seriously, someone post the Catgirl bullshit. I need to vent some fan-steam.
Tony Daniel has left me cold anyway, but the revelation of Selina's new "partner"...? Good lord, and I thought his Bat!Two-Face costume was the nadir of his costume design capabilities. Why the hell hasn't anyone at scans_daily posted this so that we may sufficiently groan and rant about Daniel's foolishness?
Speaking of the horrendous Bat!Two-Face costume (which looks like Harvey cosplaying as Harley... badly), I bought all the issues of the Winick/Bagley run of BATMAN, since it would be cheaper than shelling out for the ripoff hardcover collection. And y'know what? I don't think it's that bad. Actually, I kind of prefer it to Morrison's.
I mean, okay, I'm biased against Morrison, I admit that. But what I particularly dislike about Morrison is how he's all about action and ideas, whereas Winick's BATMAN actually dealt with more internal character struggles. I noticed that some critics felt this was more "same old, same old" in comparison to Morrison's BOLD NEW IDEAS OMG (or whatever his strengths are; outside of Damian, he just leaves me cold beyond anything other than a momentary "well, that was odd and fun"), but frankly, Winick's story felt more like actual "Batman" to me, y'know?
But then, Morrison continues to be a sticking point with me. It's kind of amazing how he never fails to invoke such bitter frustration whenever I see his BATMAN work on the shelves! Today, on scans_daily, I encountered an argument between Morrison and Loeb fans as to which was the superior story: BATMAN R.I.P. or HUSH. In such a battle, no one wins. Or maybe I just especially lose.
So if we're really at a point where the two camps of Bat-thought are between the likes of Loeb and Morrison, is there really a place for fans like me? Well, even if I feel like there isn't one now, I'm sure there will be eventually. That's the great thing about superhero comics: it all comes back 'round eventually. Just as long as one's patient enough to ride the cycles out.
Until then, thank god for outlets like scans_daily. Now seriously, someone post the Catgirl bullshit. I need to vent some fan-steam.
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Date: 2010-03-25 04:31 pm (UTC)The funny thing about Winick's arc is that I don't typically like Winick so much, and I definitely do not at all like Bagley, but maybe it was just having something actually feel right in the midst of all the Morrison and Daniel at the time?
Batman and Robin #10 is prolly the first tissue in the whole series I actually liked for the story. I've mostly just been enjoying the art from the beginning. I think my initial enjoyment of the series had more to do with Quitely's flying car chases than anything else, and it says a lot that I almost dropped the book during Phillip Tan's run (of course, it didn't help that they were being mean to Jason).
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Date: 2010-03-25 09:20 pm (UTC)Funny, I never cared much for Jason nor Winick, particularly since Winick seemed to write Jason as his own personal Mary Sue (remember the month when the Red Hood showed up in Batman and Outsiders and Green Arrow, and totally owned everybody because he was soooooo awesome? Correct me if I was wrong about those issues), but after what Daniel and Morrison have done to the character, I actually miss the previous Jason! I just want him to be a bit less forcibly awesome, that's all.