*hops* "Youcompleteme!"

[thehefner]

For those who remembered the trailer for Iron Man 2 and thought there was something missing from the film itself, we can now see the original, unused opening for IM2. In my opinion, it's far, far superior, and gives me more of the character and interaction which made the first film so great:

I need to rewatch IM2, so that I may finally write my thoughts on the film which so many people seemed to outright hate. When I do, I will very much be keeping this original opening in mind.

Comments

[night-train-fm.livejournal.com]

So that's what we could've got. Who thought removing this was a good idea?

Also: was Iron Man 2 hated? Huh.

[thehefner.livejournal.com]

I guess they thought it robbed from the impact of his grand glorious entrance into the Expo, but I think this just makes it all the more meaningful that he'd go through all this first and THEN put on his game face to be Tony Fucking Stark.

Maybe also they didn't like the idea of a superhero vomiting into a toilet from a hangover in the first scene. Which is stupid, because he's Tony Fucking Stark, that's HOW you open this film.

Yeah, hated. There was a whole twitter trending group dedicated to ranting about it. People seemed to be actively angry that it didn't live up to what they wanted from the first film.

Me, I was only really disappointed that we didn't actually get any introspection into Tony's rampant alcoholism, not even when it leads him to being an out-of-control jackass. That needed to have been addressed in some fashion, even if it wouldn't be properly dealt with until the next film. And it damn well better.

[leiacat.livejournal.com]

Indeed, I might not have been ticked off at the movie if it opened like that.

No, I lie, I would have still been seriously pissed for the way the female characters had been written, but at least this way Pepper would have opened on an actual worthwhile moment, so I might have forgiven it a little.

[yaseen101.livejournal.com]

I'm generally curious about how Pepper and ScarJho!Widow fared in the Iron Man 2 movie.I saw the first one and Pepper and thought she got much better treatment compared to other love interests but I was still iffy on certain aspects. I haven't seen IM2 yet but what were the problems exactly? I'm a huge Black Widow fan so I like to know what I'm stepping into.

[thehefner.livejournal.com]

Pepper is by far one of the greatest love interests in a superhero film. She felt like an actual person in her own right and she held her own against Tony's bullshit.

I'm not well-versed in the Widow as a character, but ScarJho barely made the Widow a character, much less anything that I can imagine would approach Natasha's personality. The fact that she's entirely American also bugged me. One hopes that Joss will flesh her out in the actual Avengers film.

ScarJho was very, very hot in the role, though. Her performance was dull and lacking any sense of authority that she should have had, but very hot nonetheless.

[yaseen101.livejournal.com]

Pretty much nailed the reason why I loved Pepper in the first movie.

I'm still coming got grips with Black Widow history myself, almost everything I read of her comes from scans_daily (I should one day send flowers and chocolate cake to colonel_green for her consistent posts) but ScarJho doesn't seem to invoke the same presence/mood/ feel/ atmosphere that Natasha normally invokes when she is around.

Unfortunately, if I have to cast someone else as BW, I'll probably end up going with either Stana Katic* or someone in their 40's.


*by which I don't mean she would do a bad job just that I haven't seen her in darker roles, more intense roles.

[leiacat.livejournal.com]

Hef, to me Pepper seemed exactly that way in the first movie, and in the second it was entirely lost - she seemed out of her depth, ineffectual and annoying.

As far as Scar, I think she did a perfectly adequate job of what she was intended to do, which is Be Hawt. I did not get the impression that she was meant to have a personality.

[leiacat.livejournal.com]

You'll probably be perfectly fine with Black Widow if you're cool with generic gratuitous sexy-ninja-babes.

Pepper, on the other hand, spontaneously loses all but the barest shreds of competence.

[yaseen101.livejournal.com]

B-but I don't want generic-sexy-ninja babes, I want the BW we got in the first 4 issues of her title and/or the BW we got...I forget which title but it was Perez drawn issue (the 'she's not wearing the suit, the suit is wearing her' issue but that's just the art the actual content is BW being a bad ass).

Shit! The fact that she was a competent and fun female love interest was what made me like her in the first place! :(

Damn it, Fraveau I believed in you!!!!!!

[leiacat.livejournal.com]

I have to sadly admit that I'm not familiar with the comics - all I have to go on is what I see on the screen, and what my comic-enabled friends say.

What I saw on the screen left zero room for any personality whatsoever. She's there 1. to make the (male) viewers drool, 2. to make Tony drool, and 3. kick people in the head.

[jackolantern.livejournal.com]

I thought that it was implied that his drinking was in some part self-medication for the progressively-worse power-plant poisoning.

I do like this opening better, although I had nothing against the movie in general.

[plasticity.livejournal.com]

oh man. oh, MAN. thank you, thank you for this. it is... pure delight.

[tragical-mirth.livejournal.com]

That was beautiful. Can't stop watching.

[harper-knight.livejournal.com]

That is pretty amazing; I admit that "Youcompleteme" thing was what hooked me in the damn trailer.

But I don't get why people hate the movie. I loved it. I mean yeah it wasn't perfect, but it is still basically a movie about Tony Fucking Stark kicking ass as usual; how can it be hated? /sigh

[icewolf010.livejournal.com]

That's... that's just AWESOME.

[novaya-zemlya.livejournal.com]

I for one liked the move. I read an interview with the director. Apparently they didn't use the scene for continuity purposes as Pepper is seen immediately at the expo after Stark arrives. Short of hitching a ride down with him, they couldn't figure out a reasonable way of explaining how she got there from 20,000 feet so quickly.

[yaseen101.livejournal.com]

Well, that's a weak excuse.