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I started to write about the internet's response to SPLICE--a noble mess of a film--but after researching through places like [livejournal.com profile] ohnotheydidnt for discussion material, I got so furious that I had to just close the computer and snog with Henchgirl till I calmed down. Maybe she, [livejournal.com profile] darkestnova, and I have a three-way... review of the film, once the Captain sees it herself.

For now, more links of interest.


RELEVANT TO YESTERDAY'S POST: Here's a review of Marti Noxon's FRIGHT NIGHT remake script. Welp, there we go. AUGH.



Via [livejournal.com profile] calliopes_pen, this wonderful bit of fanart: DAYS OF FUTURAMA PAST (FUTURAMA characters drawn as X-MEN character). At first, I thought it was an official production still. That's impressive. For the most part, none of the casting really works (god, what a nerd I sound like sometimes), but it's damn fun trying to figure out who's dressed as who.



Layout of The Best Movies of All Time, designed ala the London Tube map. If I were still in college, I'd desperately need posters of this and the Timeline of Time Travel in Film and TV.



EDIT: Man, I must have really been zonked and exhausted when I posted this, because damn, that movie layout thing is sprikled with buuuuuuullshit. They list the new STAR TREK instead of WRATH OF KAHN? The animation is almost entirely Pixar and Myazaki? The only musicals listed are AMADEUS (bwuhhh?), THE WIZARD OF OZ, and SINGIN' IN THE RAIN? What about THE JAZZ SINGER or TOP HAT?

I still think the design is awesome, and it has enough cred for including several great (but not as well known) films. But damn, it's maddening in parts too.

Date: 2010-06-10 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] box-in-the-box.livejournal.com
Past a certain point, I almost start to wonder if certain writers aren't actually TRYING to miss the point of the originals that they're remaking. It's almost like they're remaking them out of SPITE.

Date: 2010-06-10 11:42 pm (UTC)
ext_26836: BEES! (Emoti: Gender)
From: [identity profile] mellifluous-ink.livejournal.com
*shakes head* Yeah, let's just list all of Pixar's movies, because they're soooooooooo perfect and can do no wrong. Oh and Lion King. We guess that's the best Disney movie ever. /sarcasm

Ugh. I was totally expecting that. It still disappoints me. I'm going to go over here and watch Don Bluth and Dreamworks and Disney movies now.

Date: 2010-06-11 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
I've never heard of anyone holding Bluth's films up there with the all-time greats. Which of his would you put up there? Also, which of Dreamworks? I adore ROAD TO EL DORADO, just as I adore THE EMPEROR'S NEW GROOVE, but I don't know if I feel confident to list them among the all-time classics.

Do you not care for Pixar? I've wondered how old school Disney fans would feel about their output. I prefer 2D animation any day, but I honestly think, yeah, Pixar kinda can do no wrong. Especially not the ones that are listed there.

THAT SAID, the lack of other Disney films listed there is bizarre. SNOW frickin' WHITE, for one thing. If LION KING is going to be up there, then why not, say, BEAUTY AND THE BEAST?

Date: 2010-06-11 02:46 am (UTC)
ext_26836: BEES! (Fandom: Disney)
From: [identity profile] mellifluous-ink.livejournal.com
First of all, a lot of people think Lion King is the pinnacle of Disney's achievement and everything else sucks. Also, a lot of people don't seem to look at the film from all the angles--in the context of the time in which it was made and released is one of the big factors that always gets ignored (with live-action movies too, but moreso with animation and especially Disney).

The only Pixar film I really really like is Incredibles. Everything else didn't really wow me. I can see how it appeals to the generation just before mine, and to the older kids in my generation; but to me it seems like so much posturing and showing off 'look how "insightful" we are!'. And really, Incredibles was Brad Bird's movie, which is why it broke the Pixar formula.

As for Don Bluth, I think Anastasia and Thumbelina are films that are really good in their own right. I think Road to El Dorado is WONDERFUL--a real tribute to the madcap buddy movie, as well as boasting a couple of groundbreaking technical achievements. I think New Groove is also a marker of Disney breaking their usual pattern, as is Hercules. Beauty and the Beast was good but had a couple big problems in terms of message. Pocahontas was beautiful and--for all its faults--was a definite start on the path that was continued by Hercules (speaking of Meg's role specifically) and Mulan (a truly great film).

Hunchback was just straight-up amazing when you actually pay attention and realise what came before it in terms of not only Disney animation but all Western animation--hell there are live-action movies that aren't brave enough to delve into what Hunchback did. The themes explored, the main character, and everything. Yeah there was comic relief, and yeah it was exactly like the book--but honestly do we want it to be as depressing and bleak as the book? No, I don't think we honestly do. I always had issue with the claims that Hunchback wasn't dark enough--I was like, 'Seriously? Seriously? Have you watched it recently?'

Anyway, I could go on about this all day--Disney (and secondarily 2d western animation) is to me what Harvey Dent and DC comics are to you.

Date: 2010-06-11 02:47 am (UTC)
ext_26836: BEES! (Emoti: Fffuck)
From: [identity profile] mellifluous-ink.livejournal.com
wasn't exactly like the book.* Damn I wish I could edit comments.

Date: 2010-06-11 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torberg.livejournal.com
You could delete the one with the typo and repost a corrected one. I've done that from time to time.

Date: 2010-06-11 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surrealname.livejournal.com
John. I'm naming you best man when I get married just so I can make you dress up as Kiff-Toad.

Date: 2010-06-12 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
I wish I had stolen that still-in-progress tailored Kiff costume from that amazing kitsch clothing shop in Vegas. I think I have photos of it somewhere. Gotta find those.

Re: David Byrne is really, really nervous.

Date: 2010-06-12 05:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Aw. I'd heard audio recordings of TED stuff, but had never seen one. I'm still not entirely certain what TED does.

Date: 2010-06-12 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ide-cyan.livejournal.com
Cannot reply to this (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/47708243.html?thread=7963196499#t7963196499) since I'm not a member of ONTD, but yeah, I'd rather see more in-depth discussions of Splice from people who've seen it rather than another round of 100 knee-jerk squicked dismissals based only on [livejournal.com profile] makesomelove's inflammatory summary.

Date: 2010-06-12 05:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Seriously! Ugh. Dunno when or if we'll get around to doing that rant, as damn, ONTD and makesomelove's entry really burned me out on rage!

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