She Don't Like FIREFLY? *GOOD*

[thehefner]

Joss Whedon fans, you're good folks with good hearts and brains and gutty-works and all that... but this? This is why I hate your fandom. I don't care that this scenario's fictional, I've met fans like this.

Fictional dumped dream geek girlfriend, you're better off. If you were real, and if I didn't have a perfect, awesome, Firefly-apathetic girlfriend of my own, I'd already be on your doorstep with the complete box sets of Farscape and Babylon 5. Which reminds me, I can't wait to get home so I can continue getting Henchgirl through Farscape Season 1. She's liking it, but I'm dying to see what she'll think of Scorpius.

For the record, I *did* like Firefly, moreso than any other of Joss' shows, but I didn't think it was even close to be ZOMG BEST THING EVUR.

... Man, I probably shouldn't have posted this while I'm stressed and hungry. Ah well!

Comments

[whimmydiddle.livejournal.com]

I like Firefly very much, but what I don't get is Dr. Horrible. It's perfectly good and enjoyable... once. It's quite overrated as far as I'm concerned.

Great vid; I'll probably send it to a friend who runs a high-quality humor list.

[foxhack.livejournal.com]

I don't really know if Firefly was good or not.

I just know that the ending for Serenity pissed me off so goddamn much (typical Whedon ending) I decided I wouldn't see the show unless someone forced me to.

[foxhack.livejournal.com]

Well, not the ending. Just you know who ... you know what-ing.

[kmousie.livejournal.com]

Just you know who ... you know what-ing.

If I could "like" an LJ comment, I would!

[harper-knight.livejournal.com]

Of course, dumping someone just because they don't like one, or a few, or even a bunch of things you like but are perfect in every other way is blatant stupidity no matter what the thing is. Firefly is cool, and so forth, but *even* if I met a chick who was perfect in every way except she didn't like Batman I wouldn't dump her. Much less Firefly.

[deadwalrus.livejournal.com]

Yeah...my last gf smoked, and we didn't have the exact same musical tastes, and we came from different countries...but goddamit, we were almost telepathically linked, and I wouldn't have left her for the world...

If not of course for her refusal to leave her emotionally-abusive 38-year-old fiance. But that's another story.

[box-in-the-box.livejournal.com]

Firefly had the scattered seeds of a number of promising potential directions, none of which were ever realized in anything like a satisfactory fashion.

And in retrospect, none of the show's decent points can redeem the fact that Joss Whedon has since said that his primary reason for creating the series in the first place was to set up a "fairy-tale ending" between Mal and Inara in which Mal would have finally realized that maybe calling Inara "whore" all the time is slightly hurtful, except that Whedon's original plan was that it would have taken Inara getting gang-raped by a pack of Reavers and killing them all by turning her own vagina into poison in order for him to have that ~*teachable moment*~ of becoming slightly less screamingly misogynistic.

This is not a joke.

[jackolantern.livejournal.com]

Absolutely true, always relevant (http://www.cracked.com/article/166_5-reasons-it-sucks-being-joss-whedon-fan/). His Avengers movie will no doubt have plenty of quotable, clever dialogue, but if he doesn't get to kill off one of them in that movie, he'll make it a condition of doing the sequel.

And WRT Firefly/Serenity, if I, personally, am the one guy, the proverbial straw who broke the camel's back, the One Who Killed the Franchise By Not Seeing It In Theaters, then no regrets, the virtues of the series and movie (such as they are) notwithstanding, because no one gets to tell me that I'm not a real fan if I don't go to see something in particular.

[deadwalrus.livejournal.com]

...And I thought I couldn't dislike this series even more. I've seen about two and a half episodes, but it took the stereotypical Jewish gangleader and the can't-ever-be-given-psychiatric-treatment-crazy-slut to turn me off.

I was always skeptical about the 'courtesan', though.

[harper-knight.livejournal.com]

On the one hand, I'll give you that Joss is pretty shit at this whole 'women are actually people' thing. And I do understand that people get put off his stuff for this and a whole bunch of other reasons.

But I am not pleased by this idea that (hearsay about supposed) unused ideas for the show somehow invalidate the actual plot, which went a different way.. perhaps only because it was cut short, but even so. Is it impossible to enjoy a thing for what it is, rather than condemn it for what it might have been?

If you're gonna condemn Joss's work, there are reasons aplenty to do so (and this coming from someone who enjoyed Firefly and Buffy a bunch) without bringing in might-have-beens.

[box-in-the-box.livejournal.com]

... And is that video defending or making fun of the uber-militant Whedonites?

[kmousie.livejournal.com]

I liked Firefly quite a bit. But it is by no means the best thing ever. It was unfinished...and Serenity didn't finish it. My favorite things about it were the performances, which I thought were amazing.

The crazed fans creep me out. I mean, Fillion said in passing that if he had a ton of money, he'd buy the rights to the series...and people started raising money. Oy. The show's not coming back. The actors, including Fillion, are all doing other things. And there are so many legal issues involved too.

So yeah. Creepy.

[surrealname.livejournal.com]

Joss Whedon sucks my taint. The only good thing his name has ever been attached to is the original buffy movie, and that's because the studio allowed him as little creative input as possible.

[gravityslave.livejournal.com]

My biggest complaint about that song is that that dude can't seem to sing on key. It's pretty painful to listen to.

[night-train-fm.livejournal.com]

This kind of behaviour isn't exactly limited to a single fandom. We'd all be beter off if it were. . Catchy song, though.

Eesh. How annoying was it to meet someone like that in person?

[petrona.livejournal.com]

The video is very amusing. Maybe because I am a big Firefly fan.

[madmoisellestar.livejournal.com]

I haven't watched that video, but I thought I'd chime in to say
A) this is why I don't do fandom, even though it looks like fun
and B) I love what the verb 'browncoating' has come to mean. Somebody said it the other day about Inception and it just makes me happy. There's a dig at fans, a recognition of the worthiness of the material, and a poop joke all in one word. What's not great about that? Thank you, whedon fans, just for that.

[leiacat.livejournal.com]

The way I see it, the guy may well have a point (and that point is not necessarily about Firefly).

For example, how well would you do in the long term with someone who thought that the entire Batmanverse was the dumbest thing ever? It doesn't matter how many other shared geekdoms you have, if that you breathe is not shared, you'll just drive each other bonkers by you making references and her twitching every time you do.

[box-in-the-box.livejournal.com]

If literally every other geekdom you have is shared except for one, than not to be rude, but my response would be, "Boo fucking hoo." At that point, it becomes the equivalent of a Catholic and a Protestant getting married and then claiming that they have too many differences between them, and unless you're living in Northern Ireland, that's pretty much bullshit, because you believe in 90 percent of the same shit. By this logic, people with far more significant cultural differences between them should never hook up, which means that, because my family is mostly German-American, my aunt shouldn't have married a Thai man and my uncle shouldn't have married a Costa Rican woman. I mean, I'm a massive nerd who takes fandom way too fucking seriously, and yet, I've had relationships with geek girls who thought Spider-Man was simply dumb, and while we eventually broke up for various reasons, their indifference toward Peter Parker had nothing to do with it.

[leiacat.livejournal.com]

It's all about how central to your life the difference is. I'm married to someone with significant cultural differences myself, which was basically inevitable since I'm foreign and I don't hang around with my fellow expats at all. Nonetheless, if we didn't have overlaps in the things which matter to the both of us (which does in fact include the same religion at more or less the same observance levels, and compatible attitudes towards entertainment), I seriously doubt we'd have lasted the decade-n-change of the differences that we _do_ have.

[deadwalrus.livejournal.com]

I thought Firefly, plot-wise, had the same problem that Inglourious Basterds does - it seems as though they really really wanted to make a Western, but were forced to use another genre instead.

And while this works with Basterds on the so-ludicrous-it's-good level, the metafictional level, and the 'Tarantino being Tarantino' level, in Firefly it's...well...you wonder why they bother. Like one of those Elseworlds where every element of Gotham is replicated to the finest detail, except in the 16th Century.

Plus...as I said above, I'm skeptical about the whole 'Glamourising Prostitution' angle, even if it's in the future.

[sara-lakali.livejournal.com]

HAHA! The bartender is wearing a Bell's t-shirt.

[mellifluous-ink.livejournal.com]

PREACH, BROTHER!

[thehefner.livejournal.com]

Boy! haaaaalp.