Rant- RPG, vampires, and sensualists
Aug. 16th, 2004 07:50 pmFirst of all, RPG gamers frighten me. They really do. It's a whole huge, really involved geek field in which I have virtually no experience and is generally rather intimidating. Something about the level of involvement people put into these games really puts me on the resistance (more than comics or sci-fi, RPG is where the line between reality and fantasy really blurs, I think it's fair to say), but little by little I'm starting to come around.
That said, I've realized that probably the ONLY way I'd ever join an RPG, especially of the vampiric or lycanthropic nature, is if I could play a human. A schlub like John Crichton or Bruce Campbell, someone who might be pretty smart and capable and may even excel at a couple particular things, but is generally a pretty normal guy thrown in the middle of all the monsters, creatures, and clans. A guy who'd make a few smart-assed comments, frequently gets into trouble, and gets knocked out a lot. Sam Bluestone, naturally. That'd be fun, and I'd join a game in a heartbeat if I could do that. But only if I could do that.
Because I really am starting to think I hate vampires. Not enough to have me want Sam to become a hunter or anything like that, but I just really, really dislike them. It's weird too, because I love "Dracula" stories and movies like "Habit," "Near Dark," and "Ravenous," as well as the "Blade" movies, but all of those feature vampires as the bad guys and, when all is done, dust and bones. But start Anne Rice-ing them up, romanticize and fantasize and make them heroes, and you've lost me. The arrogance of these creatures is topped only by the amount of admiration and envy so many humans have for them, both in the worlds of fiction and, of course, reality (I think back to all the young women I've known who'd go around calling themselves "vampires" and all the places where I see people fantasize about being sired... oy).
I suppose more than anything else, it's that vampires are the ultimate hedonists, representing an endless life of sensual pleasures without consequences, and I fucking hate sensualists. Few things irk me more than people that live only to consume and screw. And vampires, thanks to people like Anne Rice and my own cousin-in-law Mark Rein-Hagen, would seem to be the ultimate vision of the sensualist. And they piss me off. I think my favorite vampire, Cassidy from "Preacher," put it best when describing a cadre of Rice-esque New Orleans clan: "Fuckin' poncy wankers." Strange that a mythological construct should so piss me off, but then again, it could be well said that vampires do indeed exist, they just don't all suck blood.
As for werewolves, eh, the romantic appeal there is lost on me. I'm a plebeian, what can I say, but aside from a great John Landis movie and a brilliant character from "The Talisman," they do nothing for me.
I do also like
eldridgeprime's idea of incorporating the Sam Bluestone character into a LOTR RPG- a normal human merchant in a small town who probably thinks Orcs are a myth. This would also likely involve getting knocked out a lot. Sounds like fun.
That said, I've realized that probably the ONLY way I'd ever join an RPG, especially of the vampiric or lycanthropic nature, is if I could play a human. A schlub like John Crichton or Bruce Campbell, someone who might be pretty smart and capable and may even excel at a couple particular things, but is generally a pretty normal guy thrown in the middle of all the monsters, creatures, and clans. A guy who'd make a few smart-assed comments, frequently gets into trouble, and gets knocked out a lot. Sam Bluestone, naturally. That'd be fun, and I'd join a game in a heartbeat if I could do that. But only if I could do that.
Because I really am starting to think I hate vampires. Not enough to have me want Sam to become a hunter or anything like that, but I just really, really dislike them. It's weird too, because I love "Dracula" stories and movies like "Habit," "Near Dark," and "Ravenous," as well as the "Blade" movies, but all of those feature vampires as the bad guys and, when all is done, dust and bones. But start Anne Rice-ing them up, romanticize and fantasize and make them heroes, and you've lost me. The arrogance of these creatures is topped only by the amount of admiration and envy so many humans have for them, both in the worlds of fiction and, of course, reality (I think back to all the young women I've known who'd go around calling themselves "vampires" and all the places where I see people fantasize about being sired... oy).
I suppose more than anything else, it's that vampires are the ultimate hedonists, representing an endless life of sensual pleasures without consequences, and I fucking hate sensualists. Few things irk me more than people that live only to consume and screw. And vampires, thanks to people like Anne Rice and my own cousin-in-law Mark Rein-Hagen, would seem to be the ultimate vision of the sensualist. And they piss me off. I think my favorite vampire, Cassidy from "Preacher," put it best when describing a cadre of Rice-esque New Orleans clan: "Fuckin' poncy wankers." Strange that a mythological construct should so piss me off, but then again, it could be well said that vampires do indeed exist, they just don't all suck blood.
As for werewolves, eh, the romantic appeal there is lost on me. I'm a plebeian, what can I say, but aside from a great John Landis movie and a brilliant character from "The Talisman," they do nothing for me.
I do also like
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Date: 2004-08-17 04:57 am (UTC)I tend to like to play the human among the vampires/demons/what have you, the powerless one who has to survive by being smarter, more charismatic. Much more of a challenge. I want to accomplish my goals with nothing more than good ideas and my ability to persuade others.
I hate vampires, period. I don't see glorifying anything that needs the blood of the living to continue its pathetic undead existence. I've listened to a ton of rationalizations for 'why they're really not so bad,' and I don't buy one of them. To me, these are stock, uninteresting villains, pretentious ones at that. I once had to play a vampire for the sake of a game, and it really disturbed people to see me do it, because I was both insane and irredeemably evil. No sensuality, no secret noble side, no long-suffering Byronic commentary. Just a crazy animal who fed on anything that came near enough to catch.
Werewolves didn't interest me until I read White Wolf's take on them, which is genuinely deep and interesting stuff. Don't write off werewolves until you've had a chance to be exposed to this, because it's GREAT. Ditto gaming; there's good creative stuff to be mined there, and you're a creative soul. A good game will strike sparks from your mind.
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Date: 2004-08-17 10:46 am (UTC)wow...
have you ever even kissed a girl?
And she's written 'bout 'em, too.
Date: 2004-08-17 10:49 am (UTC)Ha-CHAH!!
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Date: 2004-08-17 10:53 am (UTC)well, you're still dorks.
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Date: 2004-08-17 11:04 am (UTC)Re: And she's written 'bout 'em, too.
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Date: 2004-08-19 09:58 am (UTC)I think i'm gonna be a minimum wage slave the rest of my life. I have no practical skills.
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Date: 2004-08-19 01:02 pm (UTC)The good news is, survive long enough, and the practical skills do come.
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Date: 2004-08-17 11:03 am (UTC)But I'm not rejecting it out of hand per se, I'm just really hesitant. That's all. Hey, we've gamed together, if you recall.
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Date: 2004-08-18 02:15 pm (UTC)let that be enough to detur (i have no idea if thats how to spell it) from ever even considering doing so.
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Date: 2004-08-17 10:45 am (UTC)people who think they are vampires should be beaten with sticks. they are a waste on society.
Perusing the comments above...
Date: 2004-08-17 10:51 am (UTC)I'll set out the traps.
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Date: 2004-08-17 10:54 am (UTC)Re: Perusing the comments above...
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Date: 2004-08-18 02:17 pm (UTC)my apologies for starting a mini-lj confrontation in your lj. i hate it when people do that to me, so i feel its only appropriate that i offer an apology.
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Date: 2004-09-01 10:58 am (UTC)i am probably going to be there, and attend the cast party after... so i can say goodbye to the rudes. you're one of my best friends in the RMs and you better be there. i fly out october 1st, this will be your last chance to see me, lil brother.
dont spread it around to the rudes.. i prefer to make an entrance ;)
which is why i am posting this on an old post of yours.