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First of all, RPG gamers frighten me. They really do. It's a whole huge, really involved geek field in which I have virtually no experience and is generally rather intimidating. Something about the level of involvement people put into these games really puts me on the resistance (more than comics or sci-fi, RPG is where the line between reality and fantasy really blurs, I think it's fair to say), but little by little I'm starting to come around.

That said, I've realized that probably the ONLY way I'd ever join an RPG, especially of the vampiric or lycanthropic nature, is if I could play a human. A schlub like John Crichton or Bruce Campbell, someone who might be pretty smart and capable and may even excel at a couple particular things, but is generally a pretty normal guy thrown in the middle of all the monsters, creatures, and clans. A guy who'd make a few smart-assed comments, frequently gets into trouble, and gets knocked out a lot. Sam Bluestone, naturally. That'd be fun, and I'd join a game in a heartbeat if I could do that. But only if I could do that.

Because I really am starting to think I hate vampires. Not enough to have me want Sam to become a hunter or anything like that, but I just really, really dislike them. It's weird too, because I love "Dracula" stories and movies like "Habit," "Near Dark," and "Ravenous," as well as the "Blade" movies, but all of those feature vampires as the bad guys and, when all is done, dust and bones. But start Anne Rice-ing them up, romanticize and fantasize and make them heroes, and you've lost me. The arrogance of these creatures is topped only by the amount of admiration and envy so many humans have for them, both in the worlds of fiction and, of course, reality (I think back to all the young women I've known who'd go around calling themselves "vampires" and all the places where I see people fantasize about being sired... oy).

I suppose more than anything else, it's that vampires are the ultimate hedonists, representing an endless life of sensual pleasures without consequences, and I fucking hate sensualists. Few things irk me more than people that live only to consume and screw. And vampires, thanks to people like Anne Rice and my own cousin-in-law Mark Rein-Hagen, would seem to be the ultimate vision of the sensualist. And they piss me off. I think my favorite vampire, Cassidy from "Preacher," put it best when describing a cadre of Rice-esque New Orleans clan: "Fuckin' poncy wankers." Strange that a mythological construct should so piss me off, but then again, it could be well said that vampires do indeed exist, they just don't all suck blood.

As for werewolves, eh, the romantic appeal there is lost on me. I'm a plebeian, what can I say, but aside from a great John Landis movie and a brilliant character from "The Talisman," they do nothing for me.

I do also like [livejournal.com profile] eldridgeprime's idea of incorporating the Sam Bluestone character into a LOTR RPG- a normal human merchant in a small town who probably thinks Orcs are a myth. This would also likely involve getting knocked out a lot. Sounds like fun.

Date: 2004-08-17 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tazira.livejournal.com
Gaming has one serious advantage: it's a real creative wellspring that can give you tons of book and short story ideas. You're a writer and an actor; at some point, it wouldn't be a bad thing to give gaming a try. Feels like you're cheating yourself of something, to reject it out of hand.

I tend to like to play the human among the vampires/demons/what have you, the powerless one who has to survive by being smarter, more charismatic. Much more of a challenge. I want to accomplish my goals with nothing more than good ideas and my ability to persuade others.

I hate vampires, period. I don't see glorifying anything that needs the blood of the living to continue its pathetic undead existence. I've listened to a ton of rationalizations for 'why they're really not so bad,' and I don't buy one of them. To me, these are stock, uninteresting villains, pretentious ones at that. I once had to play a vampire for the sake of a game, and it really disturbed people to see me do it, because I was both insane and irredeemably evil. No sensuality, no secret noble side, no long-suffering Byronic commentary. Just a crazy animal who fed on anything that came near enough to catch.

Werewolves didn't interest me until I read White Wolf's take on them, which is genuinely deep and interesting stuff. Don't write off werewolves until you've had a chance to be exposed to this, because it's GREAT. Ditto gaming; there's good creative stuff to be mined there, and you're a creative soul. A good game will strike sparks from your mind.

Date: 2004-08-17 10:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surrealname.livejournal.com
Gaming is a creative wellspring....

wow...


have you ever even kissed a girl?

And she's written 'bout 'em, too.

Date: 2004-08-17 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pokeyburro.livejournal.com
I happen to know she's kissed several girls.

Ha-CHAH!!

Re: And she's written 'bout 'em, too.

Date: 2004-08-17 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Coming from the guy with the Joker icon... (this being said by the guy with the Doc Ock/Spidey icon)

Date: 2004-08-18 06:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tazira.livejournal.com
Yes. And I am a girl. Enter it in the spank bank and move on with your life.

Date: 2004-08-18 10:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surrealname.livejournal.com
learn to take a joke. when a guy with the joker for an LJ icon implies that you're a dork take it with a grain of salt.

Date: 2004-08-18 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tazira.livejournal.com
Normally, not a problem. You're catching me in a mood of record foulness.

Date: 2004-08-18 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surrealname.livejournal.com
then may i offer my humblest apologies.

Date: 2004-08-18 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tazira.livejournal.com
S'okay. I am a dork. Right now, I just also happen to be an exhausted, overworked and liable to bite people's heads off on minimal provocation dork.

Date: 2004-08-18 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surrealname.livejournal.com
i know the feeling. It lead to me very recently quitting my job.

Date: 2004-08-19 05:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tazira.livejournal.com
Oh, yeah, I know that temptation well. I fight it every day. Good luck finding a better one.

Date: 2004-08-19 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surrealname.livejournal.com
yes, my dream job of someday working at a used record/comic bookstore run by big breasted hookers. if only such a place existed.

I think i'm gonna be a minimum wage slave the rest of my life. I have no practical skills.

Date: 2004-08-19 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tazira.livejournal.com
Been there. The 'no practical skills' part, sadly, not the 'used record/comic bookstore run by big breasted hookers' part. I was an English major, which basically meant I was able to give you a brilliant Marxist Feminist Deconstruction on exactly why you should want fries with that.

The good news is, survive long enough, and the practical skills do come.

Date: 2004-08-20 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surrealname.livejournal.com
i just tell myself every day that Charles Bukowski had to put up with 30 r 40 some odd years of bullshit, bad jobs, and toiling in complete obscurity before he made any money as an author, and if he could do, then maybe i can too.

Date: 2004-08-23 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tazira.livejournal.com
I wish I could say authoring is all it's cracked up to be, but it ain't. Even there, you may find yourself toiling in obscurity, putting up with lousy agents and piss-poor editors and signing your soul and career away in bad book contracts. I suspect you have to write a lot of schlock books before you get the freedom to publish anything you'd actually be proud of. I haven't managed it yet, and my fourth is coming out in November. Still...if Charles Bukowski waded his way through all the bullshit, maybe we can, too. There's honest hope, if nothing else.

Date: 2004-08-23 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surrealname.livejournal.com
food for thought.

Date: 2004-08-17 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Yeah, I completely agree with your above sentiments on vampires. And you're right, playing the human is a much more interesting challenge. As for werewolves... well, maybe if someone suckered me into playing it...

But I'm not rejecting it out of hand per se, I'm just really hesitant. That's all. Hey, we've gamed together, if you recall.

Date: 2004-08-18 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surrealname.livejournal.com
John, you know what i would do to you if you ever started playing a werewolf role playing game.

let that be enough to detur (i have no idea if thats how to spell it) from ever even considering doing so.

Date: 2004-08-17 10:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surrealname.livejournal.com
Don't forget that you also just recently finished a year at college where you probably heard me bad mouth vampires on atleast a weekly basis.

people who think they are vampires should be beaten with sticks. they are a waste on society.

Perusing the comments above...

Date: 2004-08-17 10:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pokeyburro.livejournal.com
...I had no idea there was such a vampire epidemic in Maryland. Hmph.

I'll set out the traps.

Re: Perusing the comments above...

Date: 2004-08-17 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surrealname.livejournal.com
One thing i never could stand about living in chestertown, all the damn vampires.

Re: Perusing the comments above...

Date: 2004-08-17 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
I was wondering how the hell I went from one comment to 7 in the scope of 20 minutes. lol

Date: 2004-08-18 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surrealname.livejournal.com
and now in the course of a few days you've gone to 17, i think.

my apologies for starting a mini-lj confrontation in your lj. i hate it when people do that to me, so i feel its only appropriate that i offer an apology.

Date: 2004-09-01 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spacechild.livejournal.com
i'm writing to tell you to be here for the opening weekend of Hamlet, saturday night showing.

i am probably going to be there, and attend the cast party after... so i can say goodbye to the rudes. you're one of my best friends in the RMs and you better be there. i fly out october 1st, this will be your last chance to see me, lil brother.

dont spread it around to the rudes.. i prefer to make an entrance ;)

which is why i am posting this on an old post of yours.

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