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51 Things I Miss About D.C.

Not my list (my old boss sent it to me to boast about our store being .24, and damn it, I am proud of our well-stocked shelves!), but an especially timely one for me right now. Especially considering that I have not experienced even half of these things.

Methinks it's time to finally get to know my city a little better, when I return around mid-January. Which is the plan now, in case folks were wondering.

Date: 2008-12-14 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckara.livejournal.com
...

I'm replying only to use this icon.

Date: 2008-12-14 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
This icon is the only appropriate response. You're history's greatest monster.

(And here I was wondering if maybe I scared you off beyond repair with my admittance of hatred toward Bleph Bloeb.)

Date: 2008-12-14 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckara.livejournal.com
No, I just got too lazy to write you back. And I'm currently working on a 12 page paper.

And it's one of those papers that is making suicide look like a better option, you know?


And I happen to like Two-Face in Batman Forever.




*long pause*

Date: 2008-12-14 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Oh, yes, I do recall those papers well. Between that and your admittance, I will pray for your soul.

If I knew absolutely nothing about Harvey and had zero connection with the character whatsoever, I could honestly see myself enjoying Tommy Lee's performance on its own merits. There, even with that, I can be understanding. I hope you appreciate the fanboy gymnastics I just underwent.

Date: 2008-12-14 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckara.livejournal.com
Well. I suppose I can respect that answer. Given that Tommy Lee Jones always plays deadpan and understated characters (or at least, most of the time) I think it was fantastic what he managed to do in that movie. Best thing about that film, hands down. (Not to say Jim Carrey wasn't good, but whatever--he played the Riddler like he played ALL of his characters at the time, so who cares?)

Date: 2008-12-14 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
I can generally have a wider appreciation for such things, but when it comes to Batman and especially Harvey, I have my own grumpy, stubborn opinions and standards. The only campy Batman I enjoy is the Adam West version, and all of the four Batman movies make me wince to varying degrees. I mean, just from the standpoint of a comic reader, and lover of the animated series.

Maybe now, with TDK, I can finally let go of my grudge against BATMAN FOREVER for being the mainstream public's only known perception of Harvey Dent. But it'll be a long time before I can watch that film all the way through. I tried recently! Just wasn't happenin'.

Man, I don't care if he's too old, I want Matt Frewer to play the Riddler. At least we'll have him as Moloch in WATCHMEN, but still, the dude's like Jim Carrey's cooler, smarmier, more awesome brother.

Date: 2008-12-14 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckara.livejournal.com
Adam West was my first Batman.

Then I watched Batman and Batman Returns--the second of which scarred me for life, and I kid you not. I still can't watch a certain scene in Batman Returns.

---Let's not forget Billy Dee Williams. I think Lando made a fine Harvey Dent....For those three seconds of screen time.

Batman Forever I enjoyed as a kid, so I think it holds a special place in my heart.

Batman and Robin....Does not exist.

Date: 2008-12-14 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jellied.livejournal.com
Out of curiosity, which scene?

Date: 2008-12-14 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckara.livejournal.com


When the Penguin bites the guy's nose.

Date: 2008-12-14 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckara.livejournal.com
I can't even think about it without cringing.

Date: 2008-12-14 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Honestly, I feel that way about the entire movie. If it were an original movie, not a Batman one, I might enjoy it as a beautifully grotesque work. As it is, I just find BATMAN RETURNS grotesque, period. I saw it again recently for the first time in years, and just felt sick the whole time.

Date: 2008-12-14 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckara.livejournal.com
I do like the traditional playful socialite/jewel thief catwoman obviously the best--but I didn't mind CRAZY!CATLADY Catwoman too much. But once again, I think she was the best part of the movie. (As a kid I also had a problem with the 'Tic, Tac, Toe' face scratch scene) But yeah, it was pretty gross, with a side of fried Christopher Walkin.

Date: 2008-12-15 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torberg.livejournal.com
Watch Under Siege. Tommy Lee Jones played Two-Face a lot like he played the villain in that movie. (Under Siege was the first movie in which I had seen TLJ.)

Date: 2008-12-15 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckara.livejournal.com
I'm not saying that it's the only time he's ever played an eccentric character. But normally, his characters are more like what he did in 'The Hunted' or 'No Country For Old Men'. I think Tommy Lee Jones is a great actor, I just think he did a great job as Two-Face, working with the director he had and with the camp-ness of the film.

Date: 2008-12-15 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torberg.livejournal.com
Oh, I liked both performances too. Just sayin'.

Date: 2008-12-15 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckara.livejournal.com
Awesome. High five!

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