fuck.

Feb. 28th, 2009 02:51 am
thehefner: (Harvey Dent: Anguished Scream)
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[livejournal.com profile] scans_daily is suspended. First details are here, and now it looks that Peter David himself (a writer I absolutely love) might be responsible in some capacity.*

EDIT: PAD's responded, and it looks like he wasn't responsible (although he DID issue a report to Marvel), but he ain't shedding any tears.

Guys, I am seriously, seriously upset. I... I can't even get my thoughts in order here. There are many logical ways to look at all this, I know, but right now, the purely emotional response is all I've got. I never honestly thought I'd have an appropriate time to use this icon, but right now, this is it.

I just think about all the wonderful comics that I'd never have even HEARD of without scans_daily. About all the awesome people I've met and friended from there**. Including a girlfriend! A girl who was the best damn person I met all last year, who I wouldn't have met otherwise if she hadn't been taken with this intense Harvey Dent fanboy! Scans_Daily actually got me laid!

But most of all, when I think about all the goddamn hours I've put into scanning and cropping and writing and editing posts of my own, and to think they're all just gone... like tears in the rain...

It's... it's the only place I've had for years now where I could actually just let loose with my love of comics and Harvey in particular, knowing that there would always be at least a few people who would get it and share my passion.

I literally have nothing else like that, never have. Not the comic shop, no social circle IRL, certainly not comic conventions, and definitely not anywhere else on the internet. Message Boards, jesus god save us all, never again. Even with the occasional troll and handful of fools and jerks, scans_daily has been a godsend to me as a fan. A place that would *daily* remind me why I'm a fan.

PAD, or whoever's responsible: way to totally fucking ruin the euphoric giddy feeling I had from getting a good review.



*And, if I'm not mistaken, he's LYING, as no, the whole issue of X-FACTOR was NOT posted! The mods have been rather strict about their "half an issue or less" rule. Which may not be any more legally sound than if they HAD posted the whole issue, but let's get the fucking facts straight first.

**Roll call: who here do I know purely and solely because we met on [livejournal.com profile] scans_daily?

Date: 2009-02-28 08:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] insaneboingo.livejournal.com
I saw that, that comm had been suspended this morning and I immediately thought of you. I am so sorry, darling.

But I would like to say congrats on the good review.

Date: 2009-02-28 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
I don't wanna be that guy overreacting, but shit, this was important to me. Maybe too important. Maybe with it gone, I might actually spend less time on the internet and get more work done. All the same... I wish I could be angry enough to merit posting this:



But in reality, I'm just too crushed at the moment.

But hey, at least I have a good review, and thankya for the congrats. That's what really should count, in the long run. Sigh.

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Date: 2009-02-28 08:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nectarousness.livejournal.com
Ugh. That's a bummer. I loved that community.

Le sigh. It seems like everything on the internet is getting cockblocked by the man these days.

Well, at least your show rocked socks. :D

Date: 2009-02-28 08:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Legally, I'm sure s_d was in the wrong and this was a long time coming. I know it wouldn't matter legally, but shit, if only there was some way to prove that s_d almost certainly HELPED comic sales more than it hurt them...

Yeah, in the end I guess my show rocking is what matters. :)

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Date: 2009-02-28 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princessebee.livejournal.com
So... an author pitched a fit because he was called out on sexism? That's about what I've been able to glean. Have you other links?

I agree s_d was a fantastic resource in many ways, despite the many pinheads who posted there in force. But... all the awesome scans! That is sad.

Date: 2009-02-28 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
While PAD is, as it turns out, NOT the guilty party (not exactly: http://peterdavid.net/) you'll have to confer with [livejournal.com profile] kali921 about the full extent of the bullcrap there. As I recall, it was a flagrant case of a writer not understanding the fucking internet, and actually taking the term "die in a fire" seriously. Sexism in writing was also involved, but the criticisms of said sexism wasn't what spurred him to log onto his wife's LJ and personally respond on scans_daily in the first place.

I wish I did have links, but unfortunately, all the evidence was on scans_daily. I mean, I doubt anyone would give a shit legally if we even still had the evidence, as I'm sure we're still in the wrong in the letter of the law.

I know, all the awesome scans! Like, new and current scans I can live without, but what about all the rare and obscure ones? The indie comics and back-up stories that no one read when they first came out? The lost treasures? The found treasures that deserve rediscovery?

There's got to be a way for us to have it both ways. scans_daily has been the best way I've ever known to celebrate comics.

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Date: 2009-02-28 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kagome654.livejournal.com
*Hugs!*

Congrats on the good review! 'The Hefner Monologues is a modest-sized piece with a very big heart' That's just wonderful.

I'm trying to keep busy engaging in pointless arguments about the community on CBR, otherwise if I stop to think about what's been lost I'll get pretty upset. I just realized that I was a member of scans_daily longer than I was in undergrad. My relationship with the community lasted longer than any romantic relationship I've ever had. I've known some of you guys longer than my own best friend. That's a lot of time and emotion invested in a simple LJ community.

We'll try to rebuild. It sucks that we've lost all those scans and all those wonderful conversations, but I'm willing to give a new community a shot.

Date: 2009-02-28 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
I think that's my pull-quote from this review. :)

Oh god, you're joining in the CBR discussion? You're a braver woman than I. And I'm not even a woman!

I do want us to keep moving forward in some way, for scans_daily to exist in some fashion. Because you nailed it, this community has outlived whole relationships. A lot of time and emotion invested indeed.

Wow, how bipolar...totally worthy of a squeeboo

Date: 2009-02-28 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karmaflouge.livejournal.com
Oh hon, I'm sorry.

And squeeeeeee on the good review!!!

Date: 2009-02-28 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tragical-mirth.livejournal.com
*raises hand*

Some of us fools and jerks resemble that remark! :D

But at least one jerk/fool is very happy for the positive review. Congratulations!

The [livejournal.com profile] scans_daily announcement paired with this one over on CBR made me extremely, extremely sad last night. Not that I thought Marvel actually took unsolicited submissions seriously anyway, but I used to prize my rejection slips with Spider-Man in the margins. Breaks my heart, all of it.

*goes back to writing about fish and submarines*

Date: 2009-02-28 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
What, you're identifying yourself as one of the handful? Welp, have fun, but I'm not sure you'd be flattered to know who your company would be in that case. ;)

Goddamn. A one-two punch.

Okay, I have to finally ask: why oh *why* do you have a Spider-Bitch icon?

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Date: 2009-02-28 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowlongknife.livejournal.com
I met you through scans_daily, myself.

Date: 2009-02-28 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Really? I guess I assumed you found me via Kali. That's cool and now even sadder.

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Date: 2009-02-28 06:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] civilbloodshed.livejournal.com
I know if I hadn't found [livejournal.com profile] scans_daily I wouldn't be as into comics as I am. I know for a fact I wouldn't have hundreds of dollars worth of comics in my closet either.

I mean, I buy Tarot:WoTBR for the lulz, and I know my lame ass art school friends who are into ~*graphic novels*~ wouldn't get it! Who will I turn to when I want to squee about Deadpool being so blindingly awesome? What will I do without being able to get my friends into comics by showing them the Epic Ridiculous that is I Can't Believe It's Not The Justice League (but at least I can buy that)? MY LIFE IS NOT WORTH LIVING WITHOUT GAY PICTURES OF IRONMAN AND CAPTAIN AMERICA. >:(

Date: 2009-02-28 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
There was such variety at that community! Something for everyone! Including the stuff that I would never read in a million years but hey I could skim right past that if need be!

I, for one, will not miss the Porn Weeks. But still...!

Date: 2009-02-28 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scooterbird.livejournal.com
Wasn't a s_d guy, but I am a comic guy from way, way back, and just popped over to Peter's blog, as I once helped watch his kid at a con.

Wow. Peter David is kind of an idiot.

His daughter is nice, at least.

Date: 2009-02-28 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
She's quite cute too, as I recall. Assuming this is the same daughter who worked at a Boston-area comic shop and was interviewed by local news during the whole "Aqua Teen Mooninite bomb scare" fiasco.

Tempting though it is to echo that sentiment, I hesitate on the grounds of trying to give Mr. David the benefit of the doubt. Was he within his rights to do what he did? Almost certainly, from what I know. At the same time, I think he's suffering from serious internet-inexperience syndrome. How else to explain someone getting personally horrified and hurt when someone tells him to DIAF (Die In A Fire)?

It's like someone going, "That person told me to 'Go to Hell'! He/she literally wishes me to burn in the lake of fire for all eternity! That's worse than the time someone told me to 'Go stuff myself!' Stuff myself with what?! Where?! That's horrible! And would be terribly uncomfortable!"

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Date: 2009-02-28 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leiacat.livejournal.com
Sorry about the s_d. I do have some idea of what it means, and I get the suckage. (But, you can't get fandoms down this easy. It will rise again, somewhere, somehow. That's the way of things.)

But, dude, the review is well deserved.

Date: 2009-02-28 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Shit, now I can't show you actual comic evidence of BATMAN: THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD characters!

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Date: 2009-02-28 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swimpenguin.livejournal.com
Cheers for the good theater review! Sorry about the scans shutdown, I had enjoyed (and learned more about comics) from some stuff on there.

Date: 2009-02-28 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyberghostface.livejournal.com
I'm one of the people who knows you solely from scans_daily because of our mutual interest in Two-Face.

Date: 2009-02-28 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nymphgalatea.livejournal.com
I am full of woe. *Full* of woe and sorrow.

I met you thanks to our mutual love of Harvey and Hal. And our mutual love fear of Sinestro.

Ah, memories. Hank Henshaw bonding with Superbrat Prime on Earth-44. Starro handing out the fuck-you cupcakes. The eternal suckiness of being Harvey Dent. Ruffles the Red Lantern, and his hopeful future adoption by Kyle Rayner. Mocking Gail Simones' writing on Teen Titans and having her politely respond...

Date: 2009-03-02 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
And now, I am too, only moreso! All those memories... those wonderful moments of giddy geekery... sigh.

Nowhere else... NOWHERE... could you have found bits like Ruffles and "Fuck You" cupcakes. That was pure scans_daily style!

Date: 2009-02-28 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suburbfabulous.livejournal.com
Me, I think.

Date: 2009-03-02 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Shit, that's right!

Date: 2009-03-01 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zhinxy.livejournal.com
Me.

Oh, memories. Actually, most of my Memories.

Date: 2009-03-02 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Oh, your memories too! You posted some of my favorite Bat-related stuff! And that someone would actually care about "Two-Face Tuesdays" other than me delighted me to no end!

Date: 2009-03-01 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beanie-platypus.livejournal.com
Definitely me.

Gah.
We will rebuild. Or, rather, someone with more techno-savvy and free time than I will rebuild, and I will merely mooch off them for comics once more.

S_D turned me onto Blue Beetle, Watchmen, and Gotham Central. I would not be nearly as nerdy on this issue without their help. This just makes terribly sad.

Date: 2009-03-02 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
Gah indeed! Gah. But things do appear to be shaping up. Bigger and better things, hopefully.

Exactly, s_d was an amazing nerd-enabling and education database! We need it back! (said ala Gary Oldman as Jimbo) "I... NEED IT BACK!!!"

Date: 2009-03-01 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angrylemur.livejournal.com
Figures that the one time Kali would be a dick to someone who deserved it, it would backfire this epically. Oh, well. You know how I feel about the whole thing.

Date: 2009-03-01 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angrylemur.livejournal.com
Too also, didn't you say "we'll always have scans daily" or something to that effect when we broke up?

Say it with me - how Hefnerian!

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Date: 2009-03-01 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skalja.livejournal.com
*waves* Hey Hef! I believe we also met thanks to [livejournal.com profile] scans_daily. ;)

Man, this has been a drama and a half ... I wanted to tell you I really appreciated your voice of sanity on the PAD blog, which I am staying well away from because I think any opinions I state would be given more weight than they truly represent. But you were brilliant!

I can understand why you don't want to come over to IJ, but damn, I would love to have you join us. If you change your mind, hurry on over! And be sure to keep an eye out on [livejournal.com profile] schmevil's journal and mine for updates, because we're hoping to find a better permanent hope at a server that wants to have us - Dreamwidth, perhaps, or a non-lj clone entirely.

(Also, on an entirely different note, I never got a chance to tell you that your Project Rooftop entry rocked!)

Date: 2009-03-02 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.livejournal.com
I believe we did too! Aw.

Yeah, I merely offered a passionate but personal viewpoint, nothing that mattered in the realm of real life or Da Law, saying how great and thoughtful and civil (compared to virtually every other internet forum) s_d was. PAD was just like, "Well that's interesting, considering my experience there. Maybe I just found the bizarro scans_daily or something," things like that, dripping with sarcasm and snark. Things devolved from there, and I've stayed out of it, thankfully.

... well, shit, when you put it like that, I guess I will come over to the IJ side. (I'm *wanted*? Yay!) I can deal, particularly if it's just a midway point to bigger and better things.

And thank you! Wait, you mean our Joker and Harley? Or the Riddler and Zatanna one that didn't get picked?

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